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Thanks a lot for that. Excellent job.

New missing animals are good.
Need more.

Nice work. I think someone else did the Rhino & Hippo stats already. It's been a while.

Wasn't there a Red Panda write up awhile back? Does anyone have a copy or remember who wrote it?

-Kaner

I'd like to see a giant panda.



I have fond memories of the Panda Khan and Usagi Yojimbo action figures from the Playmates TMNT action figure series of the 80s and I always wanted to do that crossover in my TMNT game.

I would still attempt to finish the article. Get the authers permision to use a variation of what they have here at the posts and finish it... as fast as you can. Protecting original ideas is a hard thing to do these days.

Angryjack wrote:I'd like to see the Whale and dolphins done up. And Sharks and Rays. and octopus and Eels and Piranha fish and Flying Fish and Porcupine Fish.
and goldfish Tuna! Bass! Manowars! Jellyfish

Whales and dolphins were done up old TMNT style in Road Hogs, I think, or at least later books made reference to dolphins and whales and then referred the reader to Road Hogs.

Any plans to do the Tricertons from TMNT Galaxy?

Yendor wrote:Any plans to do the Tricertons from TMNT Galaxy?

Technically the Triceratons would be considered an illegal conversion now, as would any of the other aliens, as they are property of Mirage studios.

how about a hamster?

yeah, i found that out right after posting.

I don't know if it's an updated version or not, but there's a mutant octopus presented in Rifter #29.

Kaner wrote:Wasn't there a Red Panda write up awhile back? Does anyone have a copy or remember who wrote it?

-Kaner

The Red Panda stats were posted by Tanooki no Baketsu a while back. Can't find them.

BookWyrm wrote:

Kaner wrote:Wasn't there a Red Panda write up awhile back? Does anyone have a copy or remember who wrote it?

-Kaner

The Red Panda stats were posted by Tanooki no Baketsu a while back. Can't find them.

I remember that it was posted on a website and that I helped with some of the work on that site, but it escapes me as to what site it was.

glitterboy2098 wrote:how about a hamster?

They are also covered in Road Hogs.

i know there hasnt been much posting here, but i want to say thanks for the time you spent contributing to the game

Kinthalis Silverbow wrote:FELINES(wild)TIGER
Original Animal Characterisics
Description:
Size level: 15
Length: 6-9.5ft
Weight: up to 500 pounds.
Build: Medium.
Mutant Changes & Costs
Total BIO-E: 15
Attribute Bonuses: +2 I.Q., Brute Strength, +10 to P.S.,+2 to P.P.,+4 to Spd.
Human Features
Hands: 5 BIO-E for partial or 10 BIO-E for full.
Biped: 5 BIO-E for partial or 10 BIO-E for full.
Speech: 5 BIO-E for partial or 10 BIO-E for full.
Looks: None. A large, wide head, massive jaws, broad nose,wide set eyes and ears on top. Thick fur with black and orange stripes. The body is long and lean, with a powerful build, and a long tail.
5 BIO-E for partial. Humanoid with a cat's head or strong feline features: muzzled face, whiskers, striped fur, long, flexible body, tail,powerful arms and legs.
10 BIO-E for full. Human shape with a lean, muscular build, large hands and feet, with dark stripes all over bronze skin. The face has sharp features, strong jaw and cheek bones, wide flat nose, almond shaped eyes, small slightly pointed ears,and short thick hair on head: light hair on the body, mainly the arms, legs and chest.
Natural Weapons
5 BIO-E for 2D6 damage Retractable Climbing Claws.
10 BIO-E for 3D6 damage Retractable Climbing Claws.
5 BIO-E for 2D6 damage teeth.
10 BIO-E for 3D6 damage teeth.
Mutant Animal Powers:
Automatically gets Righting Reflex and Advanced Vision.
5 BIO-E for Extra Intelligence Quotient.
10 BIO-E for Beastly Strength.
15 BIO-E for Crushing Strength.
5 BIO-E for Extra Physical Endurance.
5 BIO-E for Extra Physical Prowess.
10 BIO-E for Extraordinary Speed.
5 BIO-E for Leaping: Feline.
10 BIO-E for Predatory Burst.
5 BIO-E for Advanced Hearing.
5 BIO-E for Advanced Smell.
5 BIO-E for Night vision.
5 BIO-E for Swimming +15%(must still take the skill)
Vestigial Disadvantages:
-5 BIO-E for Vestigial Tail.
-5 BIO-E for Musk Glands
-10 BIO-E for Reptile Brain: Predator.
-10 BIO-E for taking Diet: Carnivore.

A nice set of stats, but a few things struck my eye as incorrect, the first was the"Climbing Claws", AFAIK, tigers hunt by charging their prey from behind or from the side, furthermore, while they do drag their prey into shelter, they do not share the Jaguar/Leopard habit of dragging their prey up a tree to feed on it later. They are also a bit heavy to climb a tree, so I'd drop the climbing claws and settle for conventional retractable claws.

Tiger's are quite fond of swimming, so why not give an option to actually buy the Swimming skill of 60% for 10 BIO-E, instead of just offering a small bonus to a pre-existing swimming skill. Also, I think that Leaping: Feline should also be an automatic trait, because they utilize it while hunting.

The PS bonus is a bit high, and PP bonus a bit low, I have HU2 and it lists a +4 PS bonus and a +6 PP bonus in its tiger stats.

Not all tigers are orange and black, there are white bengals(they're not albinos, they have stripes and blue eyes) and "melanistic" black ones also. Consider revising the text so that it implies no actual color scheme.

There are some pretty impressive pictures in this months nat'l geographic with a Tiger leaping from the groung to attack a man atop an elephant.

Kinthalis Silverbow wrote:You might be right about the climbing claws, I'll have to check my research again. I know that tigers like to swim. However, most of the water animals in second edition can't get a bonus to swimming, much less buy it as a skill. I don't think it would be fair to let the tiger buy it as a skill when the otter and alligator can't.

I based the strength and prowess bonuses off the lion in second edition. As for the coloration issue, that is dealt with in the optional appearance tables.

I think that all primarily water-dwelling creatures should have at least basic swimming skill as an automatic(or at least mandatory pick) skill or allow them to buy it using BIO-E.

Here's something Iczer made in response to my "Deep Sea Fangly Fish" post

Anglerfish
Original Animal Characteristics
Description:
Size level: 1
Length: up to 8 inches
Weight:
Build: short
Mutant Changes and Costs
Total BIO-E: 85
Attribute Bonuses: +4 MA, +2 IQ, -4 PB
Human Features
Hands: 5 BIO-E for Partial or 10 BIO-E for Full
Biped: 5 BIO-E for Partial or 10 BIO-E for Full
Speech: 5 BIO-E for Partial or 10 BIO-E for Full
Looks: None.
5 BIO-E for Partial.
Full Look impossible
Natural Weapons
10 BIO-E 3d6 damage bite
Mutant Animal Powers
Automatically gets Aquatic Swimming at 80%
15 BIO-E Deep Pressure Survival: immune to deep pressure, half damage form cold, +15 SDC
10 BIO-E Hypnotic Lure: Observers must save vs. stun (14 +ME bonus) or be lured into a zombie-like trance. The character loses half its attacks per melee and -2 from all combat maneuvers, and moves 15 feet towards the character every melee round. May resave once per melee round.
5 BIO-E grapple opponents with expandable jaws, adding +5 to any escape attempt and the character will deal bite damage each action. Must buy bite attack
10 BIO-E night vision
5 BIO-E Water Breathing
10 BIO-E Extra PE
Vestigial Disadvantages
-10 BIO-E Reptile Brain: Predator
-10 BIO-E Prey Eyes
-15 BIO-E Aquatic Vestigial Skin
-15 BIO-E Aquatic Respiratory System
-10 BIO-E Temperature Sensitivity
-5 BIO-E Webbed Hands and Feet
-10 BIO-E Diet: Carnivore

If it needs any work, feel free to make comments

Quinn! you forgot the Bio-E cost for the awesome back deck for dinner and dancing!

Giant Panda (Bear)
[revised August 24, 2006]
Original Animal Characteristics
Size Level: 11
Length: 4-6 feet (1.2 to 1.8 m).
Weight: 220-250 lbs (135 to 180 kg).
Build: Medium.
Mutant Changes & Cost
Total BIO-E: 25
Attribute Bonuses: +3D6 SDC, +4 to PS, Brute Strength, +3 PE, +3 PB and +4 Spd.
Human Features
Hands: Automatically partial or 5 BIO-E for full.
Biped: Automaticallt partial or 5 BIO-E for full.
Speech: 5 BIO-E for partial or 10 BIO-E for full.
Looks: None. The giant panda, a black-and-white bear, has a body typical of bears. It has black fur on ears, eye patches, muzzle, legs, and shoulders. The rest of the animal's coat is white.
5 BIO-E for partial. Has the general characteristics similar to a mutant bear (small, humanoid in appearance, difined snout and heavy fur, and massive build) but is distinguished by it's black-and-white coat.
10 BIO-E for full. Humanoid with dark circles around small beedy eyes; broad or nose; large round dark ears; a lot of thick body hair (dark on the arms, legs, and upper back); powerful build and barrel chest.
Natural Weapons
5 BIO-E for 2D4 damage Heavy Claws.
10 BIO-E for 2D6 damage Heavy Claws.
5 BIO-E for 1D6 damage Teeth.
10 BIO-E for 2D6 damage Teeth.
Mutant Animal Powers
Automatically gets Advanced Sight (can be traded away for color blind).
10 BIO-E for Beastly Strength.
20 BIO-E for Crushing Strength.
5 BIO-E for Extra Physical Endurance.
10 BIO-E for Extraordinary Speed.
5 BIO-E for Advanced Hearing.
5 BIO-E for Advanced Smell.
10 BIO-E for Predatory Burst.
10 BIO-E for Hold Breath.
Vestigial Disadvantages
-5 BIO-E for Color Blindness.
-5 BIO-E for taking Nearsightedness.
-10 BIO-E for taking Vesigial "pseudo thumb" (Special). Over the centuries, Giant Pandas have evolved a "pseudo thumb" formed by an elongated and enlarged wrist bone covered with a fleshy pad of skin. Now this "thumb" gets in the way and reduces the Panda's manual dexterity (-10% on skills requiring manual dexterity).
-10 BIO-E for taking Reptile Brain: Predator.
-10 BIO-E for Musk Glands.
-10 BIO-E for Diet: Carnivore.
-10 BIO-E for Diet: Herbivore.
-15 BIO-E for Diet: Bamboo (Special). Giant pandas are biologically unique. They are closely related to bears and have the digestive system of a carnivore, but they have adapted to a vegetarian diet and depend almost exclusively on bamboo as a food source. Not designed to process plant matter, the panda's digestive system cannot easily break down the cellulose in bamboo, so pandas must eat huge amounts - as much as 83 pounds or about 40 kg, and for up to 14 hours, each day [Source: WWF China].

NOTES & MORE INFO:
- REVISIONS: Size reduced from 14, BIO-E raised from 10, PS bonus changed from +1D6+4.
- Unlike other bears, pandas do not hibernate.
- There is on-going debate as to whether this creature is truly a bear or more related to the raccoon, or perhaps in a class of its own, rather than to a bear.
- PandaCam
- http://www.wwfchina.org/english
- http://www.panda.org/species/panda
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_Bear

Smilodon
Original Animal Characteristics
Description: One of the dominant predators,easily recognized by their huge, protruding, curved canine teeth. Modern felines use jaw muscles to snap the necks of their prey, or just crush the windpipe. Smilodon uses its teeth more like a slashjing weapon, either plunging teeth into something vital, or just cutting open blood vessels.
Size level: 14
Length: to 7 feet long
Weight: to 400 pounds
Build: Long
Mutant Changes and Costs:
Total BIO-E: 25
Attribute Bonuses: PS +4 (Brute), PE +2
Human Features:
Hands:5 BIO-E for partial
10 BIO-E for full
Biped: 5 BIO-E for partial
10 BIO-E for full
Speech: 5 BIO-E for partial
10 BIO-E for full
Looks: None: Wide head with massive muzzle, broad nose and pointed ears. Thick fur covering powerful body, with humped shoulders. Long, furry tail.
5 for Partial: Muzzled facem with protruding upper teeth. Thick fur, short, furry tail, and powerful limbs.
10 for Full: Flat nose, buckteeth, pointed ears and large eyes. Lean, muscular build, with oversized shoulders. Large hands and feet
Natural Weapons: 10 BIO-E for 1d10 damage retractable claws
5 BIO-E for 1d8 damage teeth
10 BIO-E for 3d6 damage slashing fangs
Mutant Animal Powers
5 BIO-E for Advanced Smell
5 BIO-E for Nightvision
10 BIO-E for Leaping: Rodent
10 BIO-E for Beastly Strength
20 BIO-E for Crushing Strength
5 BIO-E for Extraordinary PE
10 BIO-E for Predator Burst
5 BIO-E for Advanced Hearing
Vestigial Disadvantages
-5 for Vestigial Tail
-10 for Nocturnal
-10 for Diet: Carnivore
-5 for Musk Glands
-15 for Vestigial Fangs: fangs deal 3d6 damage, but are brittle and have a 01-50% chance of breaking whenever a bite attack is made[/b]

Nice work, Quinn.

Nice work.

Mephisto wrote:

Tetsubo wrote:

Mephisto wrote:Gorilla

This is just beautiful.

One thing though, 3m is over 9 feet tall... a meter is 3.28 feet...

Yes, you're right it was meant to be 2 m, but I missed a keystroke; that's because I don't have editors to check for stuff like that.

Now you know why I do.