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The family of Prosek
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:16 pm
by Zenviscaype
I am doing a PbP game and I recalled that Prosek had a wife and daughter (?) Could anyone have that source?
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:43 pm
by Warshield73
WB 11: Coalition War Campaign, page 214-217 has information on the Prosek family. He had a younger son who died but no daughter. His wife was presumed dead but she was revealed to be alive in WB 16: Federation of Magic Revised, page 29 describes how she was held by Alistair for years and rescued by Cyber-Knights.
He does have nieces and nephews listed in the first book. Hope this is what you were looking for.
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:40 pm
by Aermas
There is a theory that Erin Tarn & Lady Prosek are the same person
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:28 pm
by Library Ogre
Aermas wrote:There is a theory that Erin Tarn & Lady Prosek are the same person
Ok, that's hilarious. It would explain why she knows so much about Young Karl, able to quote his papers and the like.
**** it. This is canon. *bangs gavel*
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:07 pm
by Aermas
Mark Hall wrote:Aermas wrote:There is a theory that Erin Tarn & Lady Prosek are the same person
Ok, that's hilarious. It would explain why she knows so much about Young Karl, able to quote his papers and the like.
**** it. This is canon. *bangs gavel*
Yep, I found it in an old forum post. Basically Jo-Anna Prosek lost two fingers on her left hand,& had them replaced with Biosystem cybernetics. Erin Tarn also has two biosystem fingers on her left hand. A bunch of other stuff, like having spent time with Plato & the library in Chi-Town & stuff. Her & Karl friends with the Cyber Knight which just happened to rescue Lady Prosek...
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:16 pm
by Crimson Dynamo
It's a silly and implausible connection (so naturally it's probably true given Kevin's storytelling abilities), as there's no way it would be able to be kept a secret for long. Too many people have seen or heard descriptions of Erin Tarn, and way too many people have undoubtedly seen pictures of their emperor's main squeeze plastered all over every Coalition city and TV screen.
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:51 am
by Aermas
Crimson Dynamo wrote:It's a silly and implausible connection (so naturally it's probably true given Kevin's storytelling abilities), as there's no way it would be able to be kept a secret for long. Too many people have seen or heard descriptions of Erin Tarn, and way too many people have undoubtedly seen pictures of their emperor's main squeeze plastered all over every Coalition city and TV screen.
Magic, cosmetic surgery ,a disguise kit, wearing glasses & acting like a klutz, there are many ways to be two people at once.
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:28 pm
by Library Ogre
Crimson Dynamo wrote:It's a silly and implausible connection (so naturally it's probably true given Kevin's storytelling abilities), as there's no way it would be able to be kept a secret for long. Too many people have seen or heard descriptions of Erin Tarn, and way too many people have undoubtedly seen pictures of their emperor's main squeeze plastered all over every Coalition city and TV screen.
Unless you're ruthless enough to alter the historical record and murder anyone who says otherwise, it might not be common knowledge in the Coalition. Outside the Coalition, it might be a rumor, but it's not like you've got the weekly Enquirer to plaster the images everywhere.
Besides, with Rifts-level surgery, it might even be that the butts don't match.
![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:12 pm
by Blue_Lion
I would think that coalition soldiers who encounter her might feel compelled to "rescue" her from the cyber knight she is traveling with and not let her go. Also given that they have a picture of young her on the wanted posters I would think a Prosek would have noticed who she is.
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:07 pm
by Crimson Dynamo
Aermas wrote:Magic, cosmetic surgery ,a disguise kit, wearing glasses & acting like a klutz, there are many ways to be two people at once.
Mark Hall wrote:Unless you're ruthless enough to alter the historical record and murder anyone who says otherwise, it might not be common knowledge in the Coalition. Outside the Coalition, it might be a rumor, but it's not like you've got the weekly Enquirer to plaster the images everywhere.
Besides, with Rifts-level surgery, it might even be that the butts don't match.
![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
All of which is covered by the "so naturally it's probably true given Kevin's storytelling abilities" clause of my previous post.
![Laugh Out Loud :lol:](./images/smilies/lol.gif)
Don't get me wrong, it's a fun idea. But it's a really awful, schlocky one that only works in an over-the-top game like Rifts where any semblance of believability gets thrown out the door.
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:00 am
by jaymz
I'd say it's quite the out there idea....not, shall we say, completely impossible but pretty implausible.
Just like an alternate Rifts I had thought about where Karl, Alistair, and Hagan were all half brothers with different mothers (Since daddy Joseph the first was a bit of a man***re in that reality) and they were plotting to take over of North America and potentially the World. Thus the real reason Alistair screwed Tolkeen, why Hagan has his Titan front via Archie 3 (and why the CS seems to manage the production they do thanks to Hagan's influence over Archie), and why Karl launched the war in the first place.
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:04 pm
by Hotrod
I've occasionally pondered rolling up a Prosek "black sheep" or "long-lost _____" character and playing with it as a PC or NPC. CWC mentions some rumor that Karl's dad had a fling with a magic user back in the day, and there are other Proseks out there.
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:49 pm
by Aermas
Hotrod wrote:I've occasionally pondered rolling up a Prosek "black sheep" or "long-lost _____" character and playing with it as a PC or NPC. CWC mentions some rumor that Karl's dad had a fling with a magic user back in the day, and there are other Proseks out there.
Could be old granddaddy Prosek got with Nostrous Dunscon's wife & thats what started all the bad blood between Chi-Town & the Federation. Turns out Alistair is actually a Prosek!
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:28 pm
by Crimson Dynamo
Go one step further. Be the real Prosek who was replaced by a doppleganger, but his face/prints/DNA/whole body was altered by said doppleganger. Unable to convince anyone, he's had to join forces with the very people he hates in order to try to find some way to bring his replacement down and reassume his position as Emperor.
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:57 pm
by Blue_Lion
Crimson Dynamo wrote:Go one step further. Be the real Prosek who was replaced by a doppleganger, but his face/prints/DNA/whole body was altered by said doppleganger. Unable to convince anyone, he's had to join forces with the very people he hates in order to try to find some way to bring his replacement down and reassume his position as Emperor.
I took it one step beyond that, the emporer is a AI, the CS is a big lie. Every one living in the fortified cities are cultist to the AI
People who enter the city because they got citizen ship are sacrificed to the AI. The CS military is mostly people from the burbs but the command are all cultist of the AI.
The war on magic is because he is immune to non-magic damage.
Re: The family of Prosek
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:05 am
by Zenviscaype
Warshield73 wrote:WB 11: Coalition War Campaign, page 214-217 has information on the Prosek family. He had a younger son who died but no daughter. His wife was presumed dead but she was revealed to be alive in WB 16: Federation of Magic Revised, page 29 describes how she was held by Alistair for years and rescued by Cyber-Knights.
He does have nieces and nephews listed in the first book. Hope this is what you were looking for.
Thank you do much. I'm running a PvP game where there is a daughter wants revenge.