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Candy wrote:

darthauthor wrote:As a statement of my own beliefs, I believe that a magic user or psychic who performs astral projection with their body within the area of influence of a ley line or nexus will have their duration increased 50% and 100% respectively.

As best I can understand what would matter is your location at the time of activating a spell or a power. Like if a mage who casts a spell on themself at a ley line moves off the line you don't lose the extra duration, but in contrast if you cast before approaching a line it won't boost you.

What that would mean for example is if you're not already on a line w/ your body, you can't just mach-1 to the nearest line for a boost.

darthauthor wrote:Similarly, there is an argument to be made that one's astral (coexistence with the material world based projection) would go 50% faster or Mach 1.5 (or 1151 miles per hour / 1852 kilometer per hour).

It sounds like a cool idea, maybe not concretely RAW but fits in the general spirit of 'effect' (speed instead of damage). I wouldn't oppose.

darthauthor wrote:I am still debating if it is over powered to give a character the option to draw PPE or ISP while their body is near a ley line.
Their silver cord acting as a power cable.
If so they would in a fashion have a limitless supply of power for their psionic or spells.
However this cannot affect the material world only "other" astral travelers while they too coexist. Feels like they really just have unlimited ISP for the use of telepathy, empathy, seeing auras, presence sense, sense evil, magic, time and speed reading.
All of which would make them great for spying or looking for a missing/hiding person but incapable of affecting people and things in the material world except to tell them things telepathically.

I often forget about that part on RUE pg 366, yes 2-7 ISP per round to spend on powers is pretty nice (though you can't save it)

While if an astral projecting character or NPC were to travel to a ley line they would not get any duration boost or ISP supply. Not being effected by energy attacks or spells cast from the material world side it only seems fair that they cannot draw upon a ley lines energies and benefits.

Ultimately what's going to limit you is the maximum duration of Astral Projection itself (even boosted) on how much recon you're going to be able to manage.

Even if could fly at mach speeds, that's not going to speed up one's realistic difficulties in doing things like searching an empty house, for example. Yes there might be useful papers lying out in the open, but even though you can read them quickly ... can you actually NOTICE where the page is?

Plus there's other stuff to think about like - you can't read a closed book (telekinesis is off limits)

darthauthor wrote:On the matter of astral projection into the astral plane while ones body is near a ley line I haven't decided. I would give them great duration (as per the ley line and nexus point boosts). Beyond that I'm not sure. Is it to Over Powered to let a player have access to 10 or more PPS / ISP per round for their abilities while in the Astral Plane with 50% extra duration and range?

You don't get 10 ISP you get 1D6+1

As for the extra PPE that would depend on how much magic you can cast while astrally projecting on the plane, I suppose.

One could argue though that what matters when casting spells is where one's mind is, not the body one's mind is linked to, even if the PPE the mind draws on to cast spells remains behind in that body.

darthauthor wrote:I think I would argue that could only work if there were no time dilation otherwise you are trying to draw a weeks worth of PPE/ISP in one minutes time in the material world

What do you think?

I think if your body is pulling in 10 PPE per melee round in the real world, that's only 10 extra PPE per WEEK in the astral plane, so it's not going to make a huge difference.

One might also argue that one needs to be inhabiting one's body to draw PPE from a ley line one's body is sitting on.

The body is generally dormant and unable to do many things it can normally do via active intent.
When the mind is projected, drawing PPE seems like it ought to be one of those things.

Candy wrote:

darthauthor wrote:As a statement of my own beliefs, I believe that a magic user or psychic who performs astral projection with their body within the area of influence of a ley line or nexus will have their duration increased 50% and 100% respectively.

As best I can understand what would matter is your location at the time of activating a spell or a power. Like if a mage who casts a spell on themself at a ley line moves off the line you don't lose the extra duration, but in contrast if you cast before approaching a line it won't boost you.

What that would mean for example is if you're not already on a line w/ your body, you can't just mach-1 to the nearest line for a boost.

darthauthor wrote:Similarly, there is an argument to be made that one's astral (coexistence with the material world based projection) would go 50% faster or Mach 1.5 (or 1151 miles per hour / 1852 kilometer per hour).

It sounds like a cool idea, maybe not concretely RAW but fits in the general spirit of 'effect' (speed instead of damage). I wouldn't oppose.

darthauthor wrote:I am still debating if it is over powered to give a character the option to draw PPE or ISP while their body is near a ley line.
Their silver cord acting as a power cable.
If so they would in a fashion have a limitless supply of power for their psionic or spells.
However this cannot affect the material world only "other" astral travelers while they too coexist. Feels like they really just have unlimited ISP for the use of telepathy, empathy, seeing auras, presence sense, sense evil, magic, time and speed reading.
All of which would make them great for spying or looking for a missing/hiding person but incapable of affecting people and things in the material world except to tell them things telepathically.

I often forget about that part on RUE pg 366, yes 2-7 ISP per round to spend on powers is pretty nice (though you can't save it)

While if an astral projecting character or NPC were to travel to a ley line they would not get any duration boost or ISP supply. Not being effected by energy attacks or spells cast from the material world side it only seems fair that they cannot draw upon a ley lines energies and benefits.

Ultimately what's going to limit you is the maximum duration of Astral Projection itself (even boosted) on how much recon you're going to be able to manage.

Even if could fly at mach speeds, that's not going to speed up one's realistic difficulties in doing things like searching an empty house, for example. Yes there might be useful papers lying out in the open, but even though you can read them quickly ... can you actually NOTICE where the page is?

Plus there's other stuff to think about like - you can't read a closed book (telekinesis is off limits)

darthauthor wrote:On the matter of astral projection into the astral plane while ones body is near a ley line I haven't decided. I would give them great duration (as per the ley line and nexus point boosts). Beyond that I'm not sure. Is it to Over Powered to let a player have access to 10 or more PPS / ISP per round for their abilities while in the Astral Plane with 50% extra duration and range?

You don't get 10 ISP you get 1D6+1

As for the extra PPE that would depend on how much magic you can cast while astrally projecting on the plane, I suppose.

One could argue though that what matters when casting spells is where one's mind is, not the body one's mind is linked to, even if the PPE the mind draws on to cast spells remains behind in that body.

darthauthor wrote:I think I would argue that could only work if there were no time dilation otherwise you are trying to draw a weeks worth of PPE/ISP in one minutes time in the material world

What do you think?

I think if your body is pulling in 10 PPE per melee round in the real world, that's only 10 extra PPE per WEEK in the astral plane, so it's not going to make a huge difference.

One might also argue that one needs to be inhabiting one's body to draw PPE from a ley line one's body is sitting on.

The body is generally dormant and unable to do many things it can normally do via active intent.
When the mind is projected, drawing PPE seems like it ought to be one of those things.

darthauthor wrote: I thought, "Why not bury them?" ... Any insights about how this would or would NOT work?

darthauthor wrote: One of my adventure ideas is to have the Vanguard secretly build stone temples to stop ley line storms and random rifts from happening.