Rifts: Warrior O.C.C and bonuses

[firefrog600]

I was reading the pantheons of the megaverse book and found myself stumped looking for one of the classes many of the gods had. This being the Warrior o.c.c I cannot find it on google or any of the books being laid out. So I was wondering if someone could inform me if it has another name? For example the titan atlas is an 18th level warrior. There are plenty of classes with warrior in the name but I couldn't find the warrior class anywhere.

I was also curious when looking at bonuses on characters are bonuses the stuff classes add to a character or bonuses on top of what their classes provide? Also are stat bonuses for certain actions included in the bonuses many npc's have or accounted for separately?

[Grazzik]

I was reading the pantheons of the megaverse book and found myself stumped looking for one of the classes many of the gods had. This being the Warrior o.c.c I cannot find it on google or any of the books being laid out. So I was wondering if someone could inform me if it has another name? For example the titan atlas is an 18th level warrior. There are plenty of classes with warrior in the name but I couldn't find the warrior class anywhere.

These are GODS, not PCs, so I think the reference to "warrior" is generic since probably all the bonuses are baked into the stats of the respective god. My guess is that whoever wrote this maybe didn't think anyone would do a background check on a god to see if they were canon to PC chargen rules. However, if it is really important to find a capital-W Warrior OCC, since this is a conversion book and the gods harken back to the elder days, it might be safe to assume that "warrior" refers to a prototypical "pick up a sword and swing" type with strategy and tactics added over time. As such, if I were a GM with a player looking to have the same OCC as a historically-based god, I'd point them to Mercenary Warrior OCC (PFRPG 2ed, pg 78).

I was also curious when looking at bonuses on characters are bonuses the stuff classes add to a character or bonuses on top of what their classes provide? Also are stat bonuses for certain actions included in the bonuses many npc's have or accounted for separately?

When you refer to "characters", are we talking the NPCs in the book or when you chargen PCs? For the NPCs, it is most likely just stuff a writer thought was cool for a NPC designed to be a GOD, a DEITY, an all-powerful being. So, not really that important and wouldn't unbalance any game if you doubled up the bonuses, unless you are playing a game with a power level well above the average campaign and go around wiping out pantheons of gods in epic battles that would take months of dice-rolling. For PCs, during chargen I usually roll up the PC, add RCC bonuses (if any), select OCC skills adding bonuses, then OCC bonuses. THEN add the attribute stat bonuses to any skills because by then the attributes shouldn't really change.

[firefrog600]

In response to the first answer the o.c.c's gods have are in all other examples for this book just very high leveled versions and way more o.c.c's than a normal person should have with whatever other stuff gods have on top of that. Like ley line walker, temporal warrior, diabolist, shifter, sorcerer, air and water warlocks, the occasional techno wizards and so on are all classes that the gods have. Those o.c.c's I can find just fine I was more curious simply because I couldn't find any actual example of the warrior o.c.c. when looking at things and well it annoyed me and I was thinking of a theoretical super high level campaign in the future. But more it was just annoyance I couldn't find the example of said class.

For the bonuses I was refering just in general to any npc or pc really and I'm just bad at understanding a lot of mechanics.

[Grazzik]

In response to the first answer the o.c.c's gods have are in all other examples for this book just very high leveled versions and way more o.c.c's than a normal person should have with whatever other stuff gods have on top of that. Like ley line walker, temporal warrior, diabolist, shifter, sorcerer, air and water warlocks, the occasional techno wizards and so on are all classes that the gods have. Those o.c.c's I can find just fine I was more curious simply because I couldn't find any actual example of the warrior o.c.c. when looking at things and well it annoyed me and I was thinking of a theoretical super high level campaign in the future. But more it was just annoyance I couldn't find the example of said class.

Yup, you'll find things like that from time to time when looking at NPCs. Handwavium is the most common element in PB's periodic table...

For the bonuses I was refering just in general to any npc or pc really and I'm just bad at understanding a lot of mechanics.

Oh, no worries about that. Many posts here are people trying to figure out how to play Rules As Written or workarounds when RAW fails. Any questions, just ask. Everyone has their own read of the books and what really matters is what best works for you so you have fun!

[firefrog600]

In response to the first answer the o.c.c's gods have are in all other examples for this book just very high leveled versions and way more o.c.c's than a normal person should have with whatever other stuff gods have on top of that. Like ley line walker, temporal warrior, diabolist, shifter, sorcerer, air and water warlocks, the occasional techno wizards and so on are all classes that the gods have. Those o.c.c's I can find just fine I was more curious simply because I couldn't find any actual example of the warrior o.c.c. when looking at things and well it annoyed me and I was thinking of a theoretical super high level campaign in the future. But more it was just annoyance I couldn't find the example of said class.

Yup, you'll find things like that from time to time when looking at NPCs. Handwavium is the most common element in PB's periodic table...

For the bonuses I was refering just in general to any npc or pc really and I'm just bad at understanding a lot of mechanics.

Oh, no worries about that. Many posts here are people trying to figure out how to play Rules As Written or workarounds when RAW fails. Any questions, just ask. Everyone has their own read of the books and what really matters is what best works for you so you have fun!

yeah thanks you've been helpful I'll probably just take the suggestion of mercenary warrior if I ever want to actually understand the mechanics in an actual campaign for certain gods. Wonder if palladium ever converted that class to rifts earth.