thoughts on converting Nightbane Talents into Magic Spells?

[Plane]

page 109 of Dark Designs suggests if you're creating a Talent based on a magic spell that it should be 2-3x as expensive for a Nightbane to use (3-4x if a specializedschool like warlocks/necromancers)

Assuming this doesn't work in reverse (ie halving the cost of talents to use as spells seems way too generaous) do you think in the interest of keeping Talents as a Nightbane niche that going for the maxiumum ratio (4x the PPE cost to cast as a spell) seems like an okay guideline ?

[Marcethus]

Refer to TTGD. It has rules for researching and creating spells.

[Grazzik]

Refer to TTGD. It has rules for researching and creating spells.

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[annajoy]

From my point of view, converting Nightbane Talents into spells at 4× their PPE cost is a reasonable guideline to preserve balance and keep Talents feeling unique. This approach avoids overpowering spellcasters while respecting the distinct role Talents play in the Nightbane system.

[Marcethus]

For me it depends on the player. Their mage character has to have witnessed the talent in use then they do the research to figure out and create a spell based on what they saw.