Page 1 of 1

Wormwood: a lot of empty space?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:40 am
by Braden Campbell
The scale of the maps in Wormwood are 1 half inch=160kilometers. And elsewhere in the book, Kevin writes that Wormwood "is about half the size of Earth". So...if Earth has a diameter of about 12,756 k, the diameter of Wormwood is roughly 6,378 k.

Makes sense so far.

But the width of the maps in the book is only 1,360
kilometers (8.5 inches x 160 klicks). So a full-sized map of Wormwood would be 4.5 pages wide!

Even better is the fact that it's 1,429 k from the Cathedral bottom page to the South Pole, and the same distance from the page top north of Lalibella to the North Pole.

So, in fact, Wormwood is absolutly huge and empty. Or is it...?

Re: Wormwood: a lot of empty space?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:51 am
by Dr. Doom III
Lots of ghost towns.

Re: Wormwood: a lot of empty space?

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:58 pm
by Jesterzzn
Braden, GMPhD wrote:The scale of the maps in Wormwood are 1inch=160kilometers. And elsewhere in the book, Kevin writes that Wormwood "is about half the size of Earth". So...if Earth has a diameter of about 12,756 k, the diameter of Wormwood is roughly 6,378 k.

Makes sense so far.

But the width of the maps in the book is only 1,360
kilometers (8.5 inches x 160 klicks). So a full-sized map of Wormwood would be 4.5 pages wide!

Even better is the fact that it's 1,429 k from the Cathedral bottom page to the South Pole, and the same distance from the page top north of Lalibella to the North Pole.

So, in fact, Wormwood is absolutly huge and empty. Or is it...?


Maybe he means about 1/2 the mass of earth, in which case it would be much much smaller in terms of square miles of surface area.

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:43 am
by Svartalf
I'd say lots of empty spaces, yes... areas of sparser population, and probably much less intense fighting... maybe some kind of population reservoir for both sides.

The maps provided only depict the most populated area, and the one where most of the war is happening

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:05 am
by Braden Campbell
well...it got me sitting down today with the two maps photocopied, and some other, blank, 8.5 x11 " paper sheets. And I just started thinking about things and sketching in all that empty space.

And I got to thinking about some possible Rifter submissions about some other major features one could find on Wormwood (like the asteroid impact on the opposite hemisphere from Charun, the one that is several billion years old, 1600 kilometers across, and ringed with mountains filled with warring tribes of Mountain Giants.) And os who else might be fighting the Unholy of the upper left or right of the Lands of Darkness (like a feudal Japanese Empire north east of Kriegstar, or maybe something opposite to the Cathedral, something more Islamic in tone).

My point is, there is a crapload of empty room just waiting to filled up. Kind of like how Middle Earth is really only the Western coast of a larger, undefined continent. Other factions. Other evils. Other mysteries.

Keep watching this space...

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:02 am
by Steve Conan Trustrum
The campaign I ran to test out a lot of my Wormwood home brew material had the players go off the official map, into the "Wastelands." I had entirely new cultures out there, fighting or siding with the Unholy in an aspect of the war that the Cathedral was entirely unaware of.

All that extra space gives the GM plenty of opportunity to go wacky with ideas.

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:47 am
by The Artist Formerly
DarkWarriorKarg wrote:It shares space wth the Coalition's 3.5 million spare SAMAS Suits, Dog Boys & Skelebots supply, the Tundra Ranger's funds and the pocket dimension used by the CS to sneak the troops through the Hivelands.
:lol: Awesome.

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:49 pm
by Braden Campbell
Steve Conan Trustrum wrote:The campaign I ran to test out a lot of my Wormwood home brew material had the players go off the official map, into the "Wastelands." I had entirely new cultures out there, fighting or siding with the Unholy in an aspect of the war that the Cathedral was entirely unaware of.
.


I remember. Steve, you used to have a ton of stuff about Corsairs, or Wanderers, or whatever they were called...they were Land Sailors of some kind, and roamed the vast emptyness, trading and fighting.

Any chance you could fire a copy my way, as well as those trade and barter tables you once had on the site? Please...

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:47 am
by Braden Campbell
Actaully...never mind, Steve. I used the search fuction, and to my surprise, found everything I was looking for in old posts.

Dear God, man, but you came up with a lot of material. How long did you run a wormwood campaign, and how well was it recieved?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:41 am
by Steve Conan Trustrum
Braden, GMPhD wrote:Actaully...never mind, Steve. I used the search fuction, and to my surprise, found everything I was looking for in old posts.

Dear God, man, but you came up with a lot of material. How long did you run a wormwood campaign, and how well was it recieved?

I ran several back in high-school, which led to some of the material popping up here and there, but the one that finally saw me use my fully expanded version of Wormwood went for about a year, on and off, and was easily one of the best, most enjoyable campaigns I've run.

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:15 pm
by Sureshot
DarkWarriorKarg wrote:It shares space wth the Coalition's 3.5 million spare SAMAS Suits, Dog Boys & Skelebots supply, the Tundra Ranger's funds and the pocket dimension used by the CS to sneak the troops through the Hivelands.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:01 am
by Josh Sinsapaugh
Maybe the scale is off.

Although the possibility for a bugzillion Rifter submissions intrigues me.

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:45 pm
by Steve Conan Trustrum
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Maybe the scale is off.

Although the possibility for a bugzillion Rifter submissions intrigues me.

The scale makes sense to me because you'd need a lot of space between communities because of the simple fact that, without even the available resources of the simplest feudal community of Earth, a society would need to ensure there weren't too many people fighting for what little there is.

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:48 pm
by Braden Campbell
Just thought I would let those who care know that I am well on my way to writing NEW Wormwood material for the Rifter to consider.

So far, it will delve into the history of the the Living Planet from 1000 years ago until present day, describe the rise of the Cathedral and its growing schism with the Inner Light Faith, and a description of the fall of the "old human Empire" (for lack of a cooler name at the time of this writing).

New places to frolic and play comprise the next two pages to the right of the Wormwood map as presented in the book., including...

THE FRONT: a massive system of WW1-esque trenches where Freelancers and the forces of evil throw each other into a 1000 year long meatgrinder.
THE FAR SOVERENTIES: a collection of states that have broken away from the Cathedral, including one which still possess the means to make Soulstuff
EZUD, THE EASTERN REALM: found east of the Dark Domain, this is the last remnant of the old human empire...

The new material will give the war a few new players, as well as the means to play up differing human kingdoms should you be growing bored (as I was) with just bashing monsters. All in all, it shold make the setting more detailed and complex, which is always good for gamers.

Wormwood info

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:54 pm
by dmos
Hey all. Could anyone send me Wormwood info, like the stuff being talked about here. I want to read it all so I can get a real good understanding of the wormwood that might be out there, beyond whats in the book. My email is dmos1183@gmail.com. Thanks guys!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:50 pm
by Braden Campbell
If you swear to God not to steal my ideas...I guess you can look at some of Brave New Wormwood...

I'll send you a Word document later in teh week. Better clear some reading time, though. She's big....

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:34 am
by gaby
Will you show more info on Ezud:the Eastern Realm?

What is ther Population?

Who is ther Current leader?

What O.C.C,s are in Ezud?

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:31 pm
by The Beast
DarkWarriorKarg wrote:It shares space wth the Coalition's 3.5 million spare SAMAS Suits, Dog Boys & Skelebots supply, the Tundra Ranger's funds and the pocket dimension used by the CS to sneak the troops through the Hivelands.



Hold on a sec! If the entire continent of the PFRPG is the same size east/west as the USA, then this is possible too. :P

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:59 am
by Zer0 Kay
DarkWarriorKarg wrote:It shares space wth the Coalition's 3.5 million spare SAMAS Suits, Dog Boys & Skelebots supply, the Tundra Ranger's funds and the pocket dimension used by the CS to sneak the troops through the Hivelands.
Is that the same one that dimenional pockets added to clothing reach into?

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:59 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
They left some blank spaces for GMs to fill up.