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Would you use aliens in BtS?

YES!
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Maybe. I could take it or leave it.
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No. They don't fit my campaign style, etc.
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Beyond the Supernatural, as it stands now, basically focuses on the mystic and occult areas of the paranormal.

Would you like to see some material based on various aliens, UFOs, fringe science, and alleged conspiracies?

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duck-foot wrote:Grays abducting Humans to do expiramnts apon and mate with becouse they cant breed any more creating a Hybrid race of Human/Gray. The Grays must survive the onslaught brought on by the Saurians. Which should also be in thier. Then there is the Thule (the mythical race the Asian and Aryan race was suppose to descend from) and oh then thiers the Mothman and ah dagnabit I could go on forever. Suffice to say I do use extraterrestrials in a freaky non-star wars way.
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I personally wouldn't use them, I don't think, but BTS is certainly the system to go for if you DO want to use them.

I think if I were to do a game using aliens, I would be forcing the characters to be norms - no psionics, magic, or parapsych stuff. I like BTS games where the massively freakish and unusual is the exception rather than the rule. The more supernatural and scary the enemy, the more mundane and normal the characters, and vice versa. Otherwise it's just HU.
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Yes.

But only if the aliens are actually "ultra-terrestrials" (from another dimension), posing as extra-terrestrials, a la the old UFOnaut.

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My last BTS game was very heavy in aliens and ufos. Perhaps we just needed to play HU, but it never had that feel. Probably playstyle that makes the difference.
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Nicely put
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I've been writing a campaign for about 3 years now that has to do with Greys. I started it with BTS, but incorporated it to fit BTS2. It's just something I've been doing combining stories about Greys and the Rex 84 Program.

I just need to find a way for my "power-addicted" players to get interrested in it. I believe in a horror-style rpg the more "humanized" a character is the better. I mean- how scary is it if you can easily destroy everything upon each encounter? It's not very scary/exciting if you fireball the face of every werewolf you encounter :P
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Greys are thought to be immune to psionics.

And have antimagic auras surrounding them.

Anyone that actually met a grey probably would not know these things though.

What is an alien and how do you know when you have met one? Then there is the whole issue of figuring out how to kill it, if that is what is needed.

Make them work for it, make them work on things that a fireball does not solve. If they are hardcore power hungry roll players they may not to play anymore. If they are role players they will welcome the challenge.
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GreenGhost wrote:I've been writing a campaign for about 3 years now that has to do with Greys. I started it with BTS, but incorporated it to fit BTS2. It's just something I've been doing combining stories about Greys and the Rex 84 Program.

I just need to find a way for my "power-addicted" players to get interrested in it. I believe in a horror-style rpg the more "humanized" a character is the better. I mean- how scary is it if you can easily destroy everything upon each encounter? It's not very scary/exciting if you fireball the face of every werewolf you encounter :P


Sounds like an interesting idea, I was kicking around a game with the grays too. But, in the end we just play to much rifts, so i never got around to runing it.
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Chello!

lather wrote:Greys are thought to be immune to psionics.

And have antimagic auras surrounding them.



Sounds to me like they'd model great with the Nega-Psychic RCC.

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Yea, they would.

Nega-psychics on nega-crack though ;)
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Misfit KotLD wrote:
lather wrote:Yea, they would.

Nega-psychics on nega-crack though ;)

Who give anal probes while letting Scott Beio give you pink eye.

That certainly would be a sticky situation....
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Misfit KotLD wrote:
lather wrote:
Misfit KotLD wrote:
lather wrote:Yea, they would.

Nega-psychics on nega-crack though ;)

Who give anal probes while letting Scott Beio give you pink eye.

That certainly would be a sticky situation....

Yes, but it beats having a Patric Duffy leg.

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Ridley wrote:
GreenGhost wrote:I've been writing a campaign for about 3 years now that has to do with Greys. I started it with BTS, but incorporated it to fit BTS2. It's just something I've been doing combining stories about Greys and the Rex 84 Program.

I just need to find a way for my "power-addicted" players to get interrested in it. I believe in a horror-style rpg the more "humanized" a character is the better. I mean- how scary is it if you can easily destroy everything upon each encounter? It's not very scary/exciting if you fireball the face of every werewolf you encounter :P


Sounds like an interesting idea, I was kicking around a game with the grays too. But, in the end we just play to much rifts, so i never got around to runing it.


I know what you mean about too much Rifts. It was all we were playing for about a year and a half. I was actually getting tired of GMing it.

As for the BTS2 with Greys I planned the players belonging to a private organization that do there own searching and studying of the supernatural and then realize there are other organizations out there with a more selfish or synister goal in mind (hince the Rex 84 Program link). Therefore they'd not only be tracking the suoernatural, but they'd have to keep an eye out for these other organizations to avoid detection from them.
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Chello!

GreenGhost wrote:
As for the BTS2 with Greys I planned the players belonging to a private organization that do there own searching and studying of the supernatural and then realize there are other organizations out there with a more selfish or synister goal in mind (hince the Rex 84 Program link). Therefore they'd not only be tracking the suoernatural, but they'd have to keep an eye out for these other organizations to avoid detection from them.


Yeppers..great ideas...I pull a lot of inspiration from GURPS Illuminati and Black Ops. (I love the tagline for Black Ops: "The Truth is out there: Find It and Kill It." :D)

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BTS allows for a variety of fun playstyles.
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Lord_Dalgard wrote:Chello!

GreenGhost wrote:
As for the BTS2 with Greys I planned the players belonging to a private organization that do there own searching and studying of the supernatural and then realize there are other organizations out there with a more selfish or synister goal in mind (hince the Rex 84 Program link). Therefore they'd not only be tracking the suoernatural, but they'd have to keep an eye out for these other organizations to avoid detection from them.


Yeppers..great ideas...I pull a lot of inspiration from GURPS Illuminati and Black Ops. (I love the tagline for Black Ops: "The Truth is out there: Find It and Kill It." :D)

kill it! die! die! die! :frust:

Seriously though- I've created (not finalized yet) about 4 or 5 secret organizations that are involved with the supernatural or alien world. Some government "sponsored" and some private.

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We were a government unit.

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The one thing that i wonder about these beings, if they are real, is jsut what exactly thier agenda is, and why they are here.
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it's funny, when i read BTS and BTS2, i got the impression that aliens weren't really a part.

the impression i got was that most of the weird events connected to 'aliens' were actually supernatural events, which people decided were 'alien' related because "everyone knows aliens exist and only kooks and wacko's beleive in the supernatural" :)

cattle mutilations? hell hounds.
abductions? Cults/Astral encounters/dimension tripping.
Strange lights in the Sky? UFOnaughts or other energy beings.
alien sightings? bigfoot, D-bee's, werewolves, ect.
Men in Black? Goverment agency(agencies?) dedicated to keeping the supernatural from becoming public knowledge.
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Actually, Men in Black would likely be a sort of "non-people," i.e. supernatural beings that, for whatever reason, like to screw with our heads.

Take the average MIB account from back in the day. The victim is usually threatened before they go public with what they saw (sometimes before the victim told anyone). Conspiracy theorists aside, the government does not have that level of surveillance today, let alone in 1966.

All things considered I would prefer to go with John A. Keel when it comes to "aliens": They are not extraterrestrial, rather they are ultraterrestrial (i.e. from other dimensions).

It fits Beyond the Supernatural much better, and makes things a lot more fun.

Sure, taking a myth and plotting it in the game verbartim is fun, but taking that myth and creating what inspired it (and explaining how and why) is a lot more fun, and (again) fits BTS much better.

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Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Actually, Men in Black would likely be a sort of "non-people," i.e. supernatural beings that, for whatever reason, like to screw with our heads.

Take the average MIB account from back in the day. The victim is usually threatened before they go public with what they saw (sometimes before the victim told anyone). Conspiracy theorists aside, the government does not have that level of surveillance today, let alone in 1966.

All things considered I would prefer to go with John A. Keel when it comes to "aliens": They are not extraterrestrial, rather they are ultraterrestrial (i.e. from other dimensions).

It fits Beyond the Supernatural much better, and makes things a lot more fun.

Sure, taking a myth and plotting it in the game verbartim is fun, but taking that myth and creating what inspired it (and explaining how and why) is a lot more fun, and (again) fits BTS much better.

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I like the idea of aliens being from another deminsion better, its seems to fit BTS more.

And some of the reports on MIB are wierd. I do some digging when i get home and post some links.
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Ridley wrote:And some of the reports on MIB are wierd. I do some digging when i get home and post some links.


Cool.

Looking forward to it.

I enjoy reading MIB accounts, as MIB lore might just be the oddest subcategory of anomalous encounters, excluding Springheel Jack sightings and the whole "Space Brother"-thing..

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Errr. My computer crashed when i started looking for links and posting them! :ugh:

Anyways, heres some of the ones that I found, out of about 10. Ill post some more later.

Wiki Article, basic stuff, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black

A professor talking about his encounter back in 1980
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1697.htm

An interesting book that you might like to check out.
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Behind-Men-Black-Government/dp/0312965214

Oh, and this might be a good read for alien abduction. it presents some interesting thories.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_%28book%29

Anyways, i found some good stuff, and this is about half of it. I dont want to go digging some more right now, maybe later.
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duck-foot wrote:
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:
Ridley wrote:And some of the reports on MIB are wierd. I do some digging when i get home and post some links.


Cool.

Looking forward to it.

I enjoy reading MIB accounts, as MIB lore might just be the oddest subcategory of anomalous encounters, excluding Springheel Jack sightings and the whole "Space Brother"-thing..

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springheel jack, i thought i was the only whi knew anything about that


I learned about him from these boards but when I went to do some research on the internet I found a lot of good websites about him. There are a few books and some he is included as part of an array of stories. Very interesting character.
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