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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:35 pm
by Aramanthus
Sounds like one of the interesting versions of assassins.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:24 am
by Aramanthus
Those are some more cool and interesting ideas!

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:53 am
by Aramanthus
I thought I'd heard that CHaron is smaller. But I could be wrong. I thought it was a marginally smaller.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:10 am
by KLM
I would say for the 20 hour nights that the solution is
that the Shilouettes' homeworld is a moon of a gas giant,
with several - much larger - siblings.

Maybe complicating the mater with a dense ring orbiting
the gas giant, and also casting its shadow on the homemoon.

Adios
KLM

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:36 pm
by Aramanthus
Tht is an interesting Theory KLM. And it has a great deal of merit for consideration! Great job!

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:16 am
by KLM
fidgewinkle wrote:
Aramanthus wrote:Tht is an interesting Theory KLM. And it has a great deal of merit for consideration! Great job!


I'm not sure I'd call a Pitch Black rip-off that interesting.

I will say this again. A consistent 20 hours of darkness out of 28 is near impossible. Coming up with a workable solution is not trivial. Also, speaking to the original UV plant concept, UV is going to get blocked just like the visible light.


Pitch Black, movie: 2000

DMB2, Silhouette RCC: 1994

I am not sure, who ripped who... :D

As for UV... well, maybe physics can beat me, but
why a gas giant cannot have its own light? In this case,
UV light?

Adios
KLM

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:21 am
by KLM
Well, Asimov's Nightfall is the first in the like, dating back to the 1960's.
But that novel (as well as Pitch Black's) "tagline" was like "Darkness
once in a blue moon", when the Silhouette RCC's in "a short day,
every night"

Hmmm... Whatever.

IMO, calling the Silhouette RCC a rip-off wasn't a wise
idea here, in this forum.

Adios
KLM

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:02 am
by KLM
fidgewinkle wrote:
(...)
The frequency of light emitted from a body, not the light reflected from another source, is based upon the object's surface temperature(light generated within doesn't pass through the intervening matter). This is called black body radiation. UV light is higher energy than visible light. Why would an object that is cooler than the sun emit UV black body radiation when it doesn't emit visible spectrum black body radiation?
(...)
From eyeballing the graph, I would guess that it takes a temperature of 2000K+ to even have low levels of UVA radiation(the lowest frequency UV light). These kinds of temperature require that fusion be occurring, at least in a gaseous body like a star, which is what it would be classified as.


As I said, physics can beat me.

However, after searching for the term ultraviolet, on wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sate ... Aurora.jpg

I think we have our source of UV radiation from a gas giant.

Adios
KLM

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:16 pm
by Aramanthus
I'm not joining on this one either. Of course I try to never join in on those sort of things. It is a case of point of view. And I do agree with the interpetation KLM has given the subject, simply because it following along with the RCC CJ created, we don't have an official home world for this RCC. So we have a right to conjecture and this is the place for that subject. Fudgewinkle is allowed his opinion and the way he wants to run them in his game. But please do not dictate to the rest of us. The way you are carrying out your part of this discussion should be to expand on the overall topic, not just to tell us we are out of our heads and wrong. So please this is not and attack on your ideas, I'm agreeing with someone else, because I like his thoughts on the subject.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:16 am
by KLM
Actually, Fidgewinkle pointed out, that only really hot
matter emits UV light (according to his tables, thought
that temperature is "a bit" below fusion temperature).

Now, fortunely for us (so we do not have to place
large amount of handwawium) the phenomen behind
aurora produces such heated matter, as particles
as sucked in by a planets grav and magnetic field,
and then those particles hit the atmosphere.

So, we needed a gas giant to emit UV light, and
Fidgewinkle helped me to find a sound explanation for
it. THX :D

Adios
KLM

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:23 am
by KLM
A few posts before I posted a link to a picture - it was
shot in the UV range.

Adios
KLM

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:36 am
by Aramanthus
Well I'm glad that is over! Thank goodness.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:20 pm
by Aramanthus
Hey Fudgewinkle, you do what you want in your game! I'll do what I want in my game! End of the discussion. Thank you!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:28 am
by KLM
Errr... Just for the record, I was not offended be
Fidgewinkle.

Anyway, as I see, forging ideas in such debates is
quite usefull. I mean when I GM-ing, my party consists
a military mechanical engineer, a history-student
(about to finish university), a chemical engineer,
an antropologist, and so on.

So, coming up with a great idea without at least
solid-looking explanation comes with a risk that a
player, coming up with a scientifically sound
solution, which spoils the entire setting.

Such poor "techno-background" (or the lack
of it) can spoil otherwise great movies.

Adios
KLM

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:56 am
by Aramanthus
I read your post. I'm going to do what I want anyway! I'm stubborn! I admit it!

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:05 am
by Aramanthus
I have to say thank you Fidgewinkle for sharing the links though! They are worth the read!

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:58 pm
by Aramanthus
Cool link! Awesome pic of Jupiter!