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Naruni plasma cartridge pistol is an extremely fun weapon to play with, but I'd have to say I'm a much bigger fan of Wilk's laser weapons.

No particular model is favorite with me, they're just great guns. That and I think lasers are totally underrated.

L-20 pulse rifle.

~Josh

I sorta like the NG-LG6 Northern Gun Laser Rifle & Grenade Launcher and ESPECIALY love NEMA LGR-360 "Terror Stopper" Laser Grenade Rifle.

Good old NG-P7 Particle Beam Rifle. Dates back to the original main book. Darned good gun.

Honestly, you need a selection of firepower. a laser rifle for range, plasma for fire-vunerable or laser-resistant, railgun for those MDC critters who use magic and go energy-immune.

I think the JA-12 is the pinnacle of laser rifles. impressive damage both single shot and burst, incredible range, underbarrel gernade launcher, Its even better than the comparable Wilks model.

now for pistols... I would say the best two are the NG-45LP and the wilks 325 'mariner' (merc ops). now, the NG-45LP is a particle beam with a lot of punch, and better range than a laser pistol. in fact, it has the same range and ammo capacity as the NG-P7 rifle, with only 3/4ths the power and under 1/4th the weight. now the wilks 325, assuming the d8 isnt a typo, its almost got the kick of the stronger wilks-remi 137 with a blue-green laser.

now, on pure style? theres something nice about the WI-GL8. a shotgun/gernade launcher! just get a MDC chainsaw to hold in your other hand, and your ready to rock.

Mack wrote:Good old NG-P7 Particle Beam Rifle. Dates back to the original main book. Darned good gun.

Ah, an oldie but a goody, handy when just have to disintegrate something.

Wilks CFT autopistol, good damage with laser rounds, with the flexibility of also being able to use ramjets and normal sdc ammo, including silver or wood rounds all with the same gun.

Rimmer wrote:Wilks CFT autopistol, good damage with laser rounds, with the flexibility of also being able to use ramjets and normal sdc ammo, including silver or wood rounds all with the same gun.

Hmmm...... I believe CFT rounds an miniature plasma rounds inspired by the Naruni guns......... I wonder If Wilks will start making larger versions for converted Nuruni guns (the Naruni rounds combust the entire case)..... Hmmmmmm....... there's an idea..... Scribbles down some notes.....

teulisch wrote:Honestly, you need a selection of firepower. a laser rifle for range, plasma for fire-vunerable or laser-resistant, railgun for those MDC critters who use magic and go energy-immune.

I think the JA-12 is the pinnacle of laser rifles. impressive damage both single shot and burst, incredible range, underbarrel gernade launcher, Its even better than the comparable Wilks model.

now for pistols... I would say the best two are the NG-45LP and the wilks 325 'mariner' (merc ops). now, the NG-45LP is a particle beam with a lot of punch, and better range than a laser pistol. in fact, it has the same range and ammo capacity as the NG-P7 rifle, with only 3/4ths the power and under 1/4th the weight. now the wilks 325, assuming the d8 isnt a type, its almost got the kick of the stronger wilks-remi 137 with a blue-green laser.

This is true. One weapon I like my PCs to carry is a Q4-44 "Drummer" Double-Barreled Shotgun. A while back I sent a letter to Palladium Books asking if it could fire the Same rounds as the NG-11S "Sawed-Off" from Juicer Uprisings and Julius wrote back that the cannon answer is YES, making this gun one of the most versitile weapons in Rifts, useful for all sorts of hunting in Addition to combat use. I love this gun for one weapon PCs.

Mack wrote:Good old NG-P7 Particle Beam Rifle. Dates back to the original main book. Darned good gun.

Agreed!

Northern gun collapsable sniper rifle with the blue/green laser mod. That was my tw's only range weapon outside of his tank, and he did some nasty stuff with it. Especially after he enchanted it to come together or apart with the press of a button.

Mack wrote:Good old NG-P7 Particle Beam Rifle. Dates back to the original main book. Darned good gun.

OH yes, my original fav!!!!!

Mack, panzerfaust, Preacher, & Randomfist... kickin it old school.

Semisonic9 wrote:What's your favorite (canon) weapon?

It depends on the situation for me.

For normal combat operations, the CP-50 Dragonfire is a great weapon, (was even better before the nerfed it, taking away the ability to shoot a volley of four micro-fusion grenades at a time if need be).

For those times when whole sale carnage is needed, it's hard to do better than the CSN-T30 Torpedo-Grenade Launcher. Loaded up with CS rifle micro-fusion grenades, it can fire bursts of six at a time out the the normal 1200 feet! (see the note on pg. 46 if you don't believe me.) While the ammo lasts, that's more punch than you get out of a Boom Gun!

When descression and stealth is the order of the day, especially in an urban environment where you'll be needing something that can be easily concealed, I like the Wilk's 210 Pocket Pistol. However, I'm a little surprised there are no CFT Derringers, because those would be darn near perfect for this.

panzerfaust wrote:

Rimmer wrote:Wilks CFT autopistol, good damage with laser rounds, with the flexibility of also being able to use ramjets and normal sdc ammo, including silver or wood rounds all with the same gun.

Hmmm...... I believe CFT rounds an miniature plasma rounds inspired by the Naruni guns.........

Nope. Wilk's specializes in lasers exclusively. The E6 rounds used in their CFT line of weapons are self-contained, disposable lasers onto themselves which is why they can be fired out of a conventional firearm as well (accepting the possibility of meltdown, of course).

Dead Boy wrote:

Semisonic9 wrote:What's your favorite (canon) weapon?

It depends on the situation for me.

For normal combat operations, the CP-50 Dragonfire is a great weapon, (was even better before the nerfed it, taking away the ability to shoot a volley of four micro-fusion grenades at a time if need be).

For those times when whole sale carnage is needed, it's hard to do better than the CSN-T30 Torpedo-Grenade Launcher. Loaded up with CS rifle micro-fusion grenades, it can fire bursts of six at a time out the the normal 1200 feet! (see the note on pg. 46 if you don't believe me.) While the ammo lasts, that's more punch than you get out of a Boom Gun!

When descression and stealth is the order of the day, especially in an urban environment where you'll be needing something that can be easily concealed, I like the Wilk's 210 Pocket Pistol. However, I'm a little surprised there are no CFT Derringers, because those would be darn near perfect for this.

panzerfaust wrote:

Rimmer wrote:Wilks CFT autopistol, good damage with laser rounds, with the flexibility of also being able to use ramjets and normal sdc ammo, including silver or wood rounds all with the same gun.

Hmmm...... I believe CFT rounds an miniature plasma rounds inspired by the Naruni guns.........

Nope. Wilk's specializes in lasers exclusively. The E6 rounds used in their CFT line of weapons are self-contained, disposable lasers onto themselves which is why they can be fired out of a conventional firearm as well (accepting the possibility of meltdown, of course).

Hmmm............... Interesting, I don't recall new west saying Either way. Do you have cannon info to back that up? Well Wilk's apparently DOES build Grenade Launchers and Particle Beam Weaponry as well, too (at least in combo weapons combined with lasers), just see Rifts New West and Merc Ops.

I like the from gallant from Robotech. Go's from SDC to MDC, Pistol to Rifle. Also it works in any environment, in any condition.

I was always a fan of the C-27 Plasma Cannon.

Wangfucius wrote:I'm a big fan of the quebec shotgun as well
IMO the coolest thing going is the howitzer rifle from SA2.....
I use it as my sidearm for my GB.....
The addition of indirect fire is always cool........

Yeah, but you'd have join the Megaversal Legion to get to handle one and they don't let you keep anything but the two plasma rifles when you muster out, sadly. But those two Plasma Rifles are pretty cool in themselves though.

Region of the world your in, and locals opinions of certain brands play a big part in what guns you can get. Nanuri rifles in NA mean someones going to be annoyed with you not buying domestic instead.

CS guns... some are nice sure, but how does having a lot of CS gear affect the life expectancy of a human who the CS troops stumble upon? (d-bees are equaly dead either way).

I like the wilks backup or the ng45 long pistol as pistols. I love the WI-SR15 as a versatile sdc.md rifle. and the J-12 as one of my favorite assault rifles.

panzerfaust wrote:

Dead Boy wrote:Wilk's specializes in lasers exclusively. The E6 rounds used in their CFT line of weapons are self-contained, disposable lasers onto themselves which is why they can be fired out of a conventional firearm as well (accepting the possibility of meltdown, of course).

Hmmm............... Interesting, I don't recall new west saying Either way. Do you have cannon info to back that up? Well Wilk's apparently DOES build Grenade Launchers and Particle Beam Weaponry as well, too (at least in combo weapons combined with lasers), just see Rifts New West and Merc Ops.

Yes, I do. "Wilk's Laser Technologies was born during the Golden Age of Science, before the Great Cataclysm. With advances in laser technology making leaps and bounds, the time was right for a young entrepreneur by the name of John Harringtom Wilk to start a fledging company specializing in laser technologies." (New West 203) Everything beyond that reinforces that showing how that specialization has continued to date.

In Merc' Ops it goes on to say, "Laser technology is the hallmark of the Wilk's company, arguably the best manufacturer of laser weapons and equipment in the world. ... In addition ot laser weapons, Wilk's also produces top quality communications systes, laser tools, electronics, sensor systems, cybernetic implants (especially optical implants), laser range-finders, computers, computer programs, translator devices, holographic imaging systems, PDD player/recorders, and various optical systems." (Merc' Ops 102) Note that nowhere in this list is there even a whiff of enegy weapons other than lasers

As to the occasional rifle grenade, like those used in the 547 Double Dealer, and the particle beam, like that employed on the 577 Double Threat, my guess is Wilk's quietly outsourced parts of production to others more adept in that area (like may be NG or MI) and then assemble the finished product themselves under the Wilk's label. And given that they have a standing arrangement with others, them outsourcing porduction to Wilk's for a great many of the parts used in their goods, (as noted in Merc' Ops), it's quite reasonable to assume the flow of business goes both ways in this regard.

Ultimately, given that the E-6 rounds for the CFT line of weapons were developed by Wilk's, there is every reason in the world to conclude they discharge lasers. Now if only they'd make them significantly cheaper (maybe half the going price) so they're actually a good deal.

Dead Boy wrote:

panzerfaust wrote:

Dead Boy wrote:Wilk's specializes in lasers exclusively. The E6 rounds used in their CFT line of weapons are self-contained, disposable lasers onto themselves which is why they can be fired out of a conventional firearm as well (accepting the possibility of meltdown, of course).

Hmmm............... Interesting, I don't recall new west saying Either way. Do you have cannon info to back that up? Well Wilk's apparently DOES build Grenade Launchers and Particle Beam Weaponry as well, too (at least in combo weapons combined with lasers), just see Rifts New West and Merc Ops.

Yes, I do. "Wilk's Laser Technologies was born during the Golden Age of Science, before the Great Cataclysm. With advances in laser technology making leaps and bounds, the time was right for a young entrepreneur by the name of John Harringtom Wilk to start a fledging company specializing in laser technologies." (New West 203) Everything beyond that reinforces that showing how that specialization has continued to date.

Yes, they DO specialize in lasers, but that doesn't mean they might not be diversifying their products as of late, as diversifying product is something that companies do all the time.

Dead Boy wrote: In Merc' Ops it goes on to say, "Laser technology is the hallmark of the Wilk's company, arguably the best manufacturer of laser weapons and equipment in the world. ... In addition ot laser weapons, Wilk's also produces top quality communications systes, laser tools, electronics, sensor systems, cybernetic implants (especially optical implants), laser range-finders, computers, computer programs, translator devices, holographic imaging systems, PDD player/recorders, and various optical systems." (Merc' Ops 102) Note that nowhere in this list is there even a whiff of enegy weapons other than lasers

Dead Boy wrote:As to the occasional rifle grenade, like those used in the 547 Double Dealer, and the particle beam, like that employed on the 577 Double Threat, my guess is Wilk's quietly outsourced parts of production to others more adept in that area (like may be NG or MI) and then assemble the finished product themselves under the Wilk's label. And given that they have a standing arrangement with others, them outsourcing porduction to Wilk's for a great many of the parts used in their goods, (as noted in Merc' Ops), it's quite reasonable to assume the flow of business goes both ways in this regard.

Quite likely, but remember that companies often diversify their products, to capture new markets or expand existing markets, or cater to a particular niche market, etc, etc. I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you Dead Boy because it DOESN'T say what kind energy blast the E-6 rounds fire. It could well be the rounds are miniaturized lasers in themselves OR they could also well be more primitive Mini-Plasma rounds "inspired" by the Naruni guns. Pretty much until KS says which they they are, we don't know really, and can only really guess. Also, remember that just because a company specializes in one type of product doesn't they don't research or are necesarily incapable of making other products, case in point Frigidaire (S.P.?) a refrigerator company, made .50 Cal Browning Heavy Machineguns, somthing VERY different from what they usually built, And GM, a car company, built more Grumman designed topeado bombers then GRUMMAN actually did in order to free up production space at Grumman for dedicated fighters.

Dead Boy wrote: Ultimately, given that the E-6 rounds for the CFT line of weapons were developed by Wilk's, there is every reason in the world to conclude they discharge lasers. Now if only they'd make them significantly cheaper (maybe half the going price) so they're actually a good deal.

Again, we're not told either way, but it's possible. And yes and I'd wish they'ed make 'em cheaper and with a wider availability too, then I have my PC build a CFT E-6 cartridge " Tommy Gun".

Can't beat the borg rail gun for looks in my book.

What ever main weapon I go for though, I like to have a Naruni derringer hold-out stashed in my underpants.

Max™ wrote: I always kept in mind that hunting with a laser rifle is only going to be funny, never functional.

Well and true, UNLESS your M.D. Laser rifle also has an S.D.C. Setting (one of the reasons I positively adore the NEMA LGR-360 "Terror Stopper" Laser Grenade Rifle is it has an S.D.C. setting).

Max™ wrote:Eh, never seen the LR, don't have a lot of Rifts books anymore.

Always liked the JA-11 though.

Oh, well the The LGR-360 "Terror Stopper" Appears in Rifts: Chaos Earth. The JA-11's a good weapon too though I've found that sometimes (In the Games I've played in.) Juicers take offense at Non-Juicers using 'em.

Max™ wrote:Eh, those Juicers will be dead in a couple years, they can take offense at the back of my hand.

Not if they make YOU dead first. These walking deadmen are alway looking for a fight too, and if they've gotta die, most juicers seem willing to take their opponents with 'em. I guess you've not played a PC fighting an intelligently played Jucier like I have, and that's not speaking of the more advanced Juicer variants. I've found it prudent to avoid unecessary conflict with these chemicaly powered kamikaze machines.

and on the other end of the scale- lets hear it for the NG-33, cheapest gun on the market! compard to a wilks pistol, its twice the weight and 80% of the range, at just 59% of the cost! heck, the gun itself costs about the same as a standard eclip- it doubles in value when loaded. for that matter, its cheaper than a vibro-blade.

teulisch wrote:and on the other end of the scale- lets hear it for the NG-33, cheapest gun on the market! compard to a wilks pistol, its twice the weight and 80% of the range, at just 59% of the cost! heck, the gun itself costs about the same as a standard eclip- it doubles in value when loaded. for that matter, its cheaper than a vibro-blade.

Chukles... Yeah this is true.....

Old School -
C-14 Fire Breather Laser Rifle and Grenade Launcher

NG-57 Heavy Ion Blaster

Others -
NG-45LP Particle Beam Pistol
NG-IP7 Ion Pulse Rifle
NG-11S Shotgun
C-20 Laser Pistol
CP-30 Laser Pulse Pistol
CP-50 Laser Pulse Rifle and Grenade Launcher
WI-GL8 Shotgun/Grenade Rifle

panzerfaust wrote: The JA-11's a good weapon too though I've found that sometimes (In the Games I've played in.) Juicers take offense at Non-Juicers using 'em.

That's what Borg's are for. This is Rifts, there is always something bigger/badder.

(That's a good idea. I had an idea for a Cyber-Humanoid Borg from the Bionics book.... maybe I'll arm him with a JA-11 or JA-12 just for this purpose...)

I would say... the plastic water pistols in wb1. You know you are manly when you can not be embarrassed about walking around with a little transparent pink squirt gun strapped to your hip

But seriously, I like the tw swarm bow. It definitely has the whole surprise factor to it.

And for sidearms, I have to nominate the Q1-02 Stopper Ion Pistol, from Free Quebec. Sure it's short on range, but how often are you going to pull a pistol on a target 200 feet away?