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Teleportation Question ..

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:08 am
by Lenwen
Question the First ...

Can a Running mage who casts Teleport (lesser) transfer the running momentum from the start of the teleport to the end ?

Meaning if I am flat out running an cast Teleport does it mean I have the inertia after the teleport is finished i.e. still keep the forword momentum ?


-Lenwen.

If this has already been brought up an answered please refur (:lol:) me to it .

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:31 am
by drewkitty ~..~
Yes....No.... its how the mage intends.

Your GM might impose a skill roll on the casting of the spell at a dead run but otherwise...."Its Magic".

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:45 pm
by Northern Ranger
Personally I think it would depend on where the mage is teleporting to. If they're staying in a relatively close area, then yes, they would maintain their momentum. If their traveling a long distance, or to a different dimension, then certain things (like altered gravity) should be taken into account. Casting teleportation while running is not something I've had to deal with, but it sounds to me like it has the potential to be dangerous.

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:26 pm
by Lenwen
I asked the original question because

if an MDC mage teleported straight up 5 miles ... 26,500 ft an fell to 3,960 ft (3/4th of a mile) then teleported directly in front of a person...

Would that terminal velocity of 150mph+ thusly be transfured threw the teleportation an make the mdc mage now effectivly a Battle Ram ?

OR

Would the Mage have virtually NO forword momentum what so ever ?

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:58 pm
by Northern Ranger
First off, I think it would make the mage a pancake. (MDC or no.) But I think I would rule that the momentum stayed with him.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:01 am
by Lenwen
Northern Ranger wrote:First off, I think it would make the mage a pancake. (MDC or no.) .


That brings up another great question is it in the rules anywhere exactly how much damage can be sustained at 150mph hittin the ground .. an wether or not a mdc being would be able to live threw something of that nature ??

-Lenwen.

P.S.
Thanks for the quick responce my friend .

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:13 pm
by Northern Ranger
It is, but I'd have to refer to my books to find out the info. I'm currently at work (racking up the OT), so I'll have to do it this evening, unless someone else can field this question.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:27 pm
by verdilak
Mutants and Masterminds covers this aspect of Teleportation beautifully.

Personally, I would just have the mage be able to if they pumped more PPE into the spell.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:56 pm
by Mouser13
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Yes....No.... its how the mage intends.

Your GM might impose a skill roll on the casting of the spell at a dead run but otherwise...."Its Magic".


I agree it is magic it should be the user choice. In fact I have always allow the mage to even change his posture. Example allow a person to teleport to into their bed and covers.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:57 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
Humm, I was re-reading the original post and noticed some thing. He is asking about "T-port(lesser)" which only t-ports small objects.

T-port lesser: Person no, object maybe
T-port self: person yes well maybe, object no
T-port superior: maybe

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:33 pm
by Braden Campbell
Teleportation would work in one of two ways:

A: turn the caster into energy, move that energy a set distance, and then reassemble him

OR

B: the original caster is destroyed, and then entirely recreated via quantum entanglement some distance away

In either case, their momentum would start all over again in the new location, so no, you cannot skydive, then teleport on top of someone (50 EXP for the failed idea though)

A rift however, would preserve momentum and inertia... and so if a jet fighter going Mach 1 flew through the St. Louis Archway, it would emerge from the other side going the same speed.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:02 pm
by Lenwen
Thats the best sounding arguement for and against I've seen thanks man I like that I will use that .

-Lenwen.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:36 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
mAd eAgle wrote:NO!

Disorientation would ensue.

Play it with some grasp of logic.

...snip



the Doctor wrote: Logic just makes you wrong authoritatively.


We are talking about magical Teleportation, not PSI T-port, nor Transporters (think star trek).


Teleportation would work in one of two ways:

A: turn the caster into energy, move that energy a set distance, and then reassemble him

OR

B: the original caster is destroyed, and then entirely recreated via quantum entanglement some distance away


Yep that is how technological teleporters would work, aka ST Transporters.

The way for the Magical T-port would be... the magic causes the caster not to be where he was and to be where he wanted to be, w/o any "movment" of anything. The caster is just not where he was, and is now where he is.

This is why a magical T-port can have its start and end points appering to go through a Force Field while everything else can not.[/quote]

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:46 pm
by Library Ogre
Braden Campbell wrote:A rift however, would preserve momentum and inertia... and so if a jet fighter going Mach 1 flew through the St. Louis Archway, it would emerge from the other side going the same speed.


It's worth noting that, technically, Nightcrawler does Rift. He travels instantaneously through a sulfurous dimension, thus leaving the scent of sulfur behind in his teleports.

Kurt Wagner FTW.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:36 pm
by Lenwen
Mark Hall wrote:
Braden Campbell wrote:A rift however, would preserve momentum and inertia... and so if a jet fighter going Mach 1 flew through the St. Louis Archway, it would emerge from the other side going the same speed.


It's worth noting that, technically, Nightcrawler does Rift. He travels instantaneously through a sulfurous dimension, thus leaving the scent of sulfur behind in his teleports.

Kurt Wagner FTW.


Holy Crap your friggen right ... I had to go an read up on that one before I believed you but your 100% right :lol:
My respect for your perception rolls is at new hights !!
-Lenwen.