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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:42 am
by Nekira Sudacne
Incorrect

http://www.palladium-megaverse.com/cutt ... index.html

Palladiums online list of offical errata

http://www.palladium-megaverse.com/cutt ... Eratta.pdf

Rifts Ultimate Edition Errata clearly states under the exapned and clarified borg section that Borgs do not have HP and attacks that affect HP or bypass armor have no effect on them, they are considered MDC beings now.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:13 pm
by Killer Cyborg
gadrin wrote:
Dr. Hellstromme wrote:Thats quite strange for me... I suppose this rules out phase weapons targeting the brain as well. Pity


it shouldn't, just requires a called shot to the head. I guess you'll need to figure out how many HP or SDC the brain has total.


Nope.
Full conversion Borgs are MDC creatures.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:01 pm
by Killer Cyborg
Zuari wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
gadrin wrote:
Dr. Hellstromme wrote:Thats quite strange for me... I suppose this rules out phase weapons targeting the brain as well. Pity


it shouldn't, just requires a called shot to the head. I guess you'll need to figure out how many HP or SDC the brain has total.


Nope.
Full conversion Borgs are MDC creatures.

Hate to say it but almost all the phase weapons do SDC to SDC creatures and MDC to MDC creatures so a shot to the doom could be a kill or at ldamage the brain or head which I would treat as surviving massive trauma page 359 RUE. :eek:


This is why Borgs are considered MDC creatures.

We have had a number of threads in the past that discuss this, which you can go back and read, but the end result was this:
viewtopic.php?p=788197#788197

Borgs are MDC creatures only; they have NO HP or SDC.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:49 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
Impervium, n.
An Alloy of unknown origin and composition present in all Palladium Megaverse Cyborgs. Theories abound as to exactly how the Armour functions, but the current leading Theory, as set forth by Rogue Scholar Kevin Siembieda, is that the Armour, in concert with a Cyborg Chassis, temporarily transforms the Cyborg's Organic Internal Hit Point Values into M.D.C. However the Armour's inner workings perform, one thing is clear:
Impervium renders the Cyborg's Organic, S.D.C. Components COMPLETELY immune to any and all Damaging Effects that normally bypass other forms of armour, at least until the 'Borg's Main Body MDC is entirely depleted.
To date, no known Psionic, Technological, or Magical means can bypass this Barrier.


This is a quote from the Palladium Terminology Project 2.0.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:11 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
mAd eAgle wrote:Borgs are EXTERNAL MDC creatures. Personally I allow powerful magic-users to OBLITERATE said borgs as it gives the made-men a HUGE disadvantage against magic-users.

Magic is suffused into EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even the apparently invulnerable 'Borg has to have some weakness, and for me that is magic. If they're unable to combat this ability of magic-users then what use are they? How else does one kill a 'Borg?


Actually, borgs were written to be anti-magic. It kills magic abilities and gives a natural save. How are they weak in your world? :-?

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:58 am
by Ahulane
Death Bolt does it's MD damage to the armor normally but doesn't do any HP damage unless the borg is a partial conversion. Thats how I go about it anyways, hope that helps...

Borgs are EXTERNAL MDC creatures. Personally I allow powerful magic-users to OBLITERATE said borgs as it gives the made-men a HUGE disadvantage against magic-users.

Magic is suffused into EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even the apparently invulnerable 'Borg has to have some weakness, and for me that is magic. If they're unable to combat this ability of magic-users then what use are they? How else does one kill a 'Borg?


Sounds a little fanatical to me...j/k