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I found a web site that might explain the origin of "The One". Here it is: http://godzillasamurai.deviantart.com/a ... H-80661382 . I figured that everyone would like to see it.

Signed,
Rathorc Lemenger.

The One... as in, the One who grabbed a hold of the Cosmic Forge and with it, erased the First from all of Time and Space?

He's dead and gone, my friend, consumed by the fires of the Forge.

However, there is mention in Thundercloud Galaxy of an Anti-Forge called the Dark Attractor; lying far to the "south" of the Three Galaxies.

:cue evil music:

Well, I figured that the link would be of some inerest due to the fact that it mentions that the character/creature has been around for a very long time. Who knows, maybe it'ssome sort of creation of the Forgeitself when the One had control of it. After all, didn't it say in the book that fires burned thru all of creation? Who's to say that it wasn't this fellow?? For more big monsters that you can use for the three galaxies, you can go here for the remakes of the Gozilla Kaiju's: http://godzillasamurai.deviantart.com/ .

Signed,
Rathorc Lemenger.

a better example of what was probably intended theme wise is babylon 5's Lorien, the first one of the first race...

i've always wondered why the 3 galaxies setting didn't have more races like the Vorlon's, Shadows, Halo's forerunner's, or stargate's Ancients. various first one's, races that greatly predate the majority of races in the current age of trans-galactic society.

we have the now defunct first ones, and those two races in the center of the anvil galaxy. thats it. you'd expect at least referances to a few others, maybe a few recovered starships with odd or advanced tech, ancient bases, ect.

perhaps a policy similar to David Brin's Uplift setting (which i haven't actually read yet), where an established race takes younger races under their wing (or fin, or tentacle, or other appendage) and guide them into galactic society.

both of these would explain why the basic technology in the 3G's is so widespread and fairly stagnant. half of it is likely based on old ships reverse engineered, and the uplift policies result in races getting indoctronated into specific points of view about the uses of most tech.

Excellent links all of them! Thank you for sharing them!

glitterboy2098 wrote:a better example of what was probably intended theme wise is babylon 5's Lorien, the first one of the first race...

i've always wondered why the 3 galaxies setting didn't have more races like the Vorlon's, Shadows, Halo's forerunner's, or stargate's Ancients. various first one's, races that greatly predate the majority of races in the current age of trans-galactic society.

we have the now defunct first ones, and those two races in the center of the anvil galaxy. thats it. you'd expect at least referances to a few others, maybe a few recovered starships with odd or advanced tech, ancient bases, ect.

perhaps a policy similar to David Brin's Uplift setting (which i haven't actually read yet), where an established race takes younger races under their wing (or fin, or tentacle, or other appendage) and guide them into galactic society.

both of these would explain why the basic technology in the 3G's is so widespread and fairly stagnant. half of it is likely based on old ships reverse engineered, and the uplift policies result in races getting indoctronated into specific points of view about the uses of most tech.

Actually.... Maybe I shouldn't say. Braden i believe has an explanation for that.

So Braden has some evil plans for something new! :::Scratches chin.::: Dark Attractor! Sounds very intriguing! I'm looking forward to seeing some teases for this project as you write it up!

glitterboy2098 wrote:we have the now defunct first ones, and those two races in the center of the anvil galaxy. thats it.

Prometheans, Altess, Sploogies, NE, True Atlanteans, a few deities in
the UWW... And the two core powers mentioned.

And the Dominators.

And the Gene-splicers (and their "evil twins").

And I think there are a few other "probably extinct" races mentioned,
like the Star Hunters and the Machinists, to name a few.

Comprehensive reading is very handy, especially when dealing with NE.



Adios
KLM

glitterboy2098 wrote:
i've always wondered why the 3 galaxies setting didn't have more races like the Vorlon's, Shadows, Halo's forerunner's, or stargate's Ancients. various first one's, races that greatly predate the majority of races in the current age of trans-galactic society.

Most likely because, coming from the school of Stephen Baxter as I do, any of the "Elder Races" (and by that, I mean the people who were around after the First, but right up until the Dominator War, 50 000 years ago) would have evolutionary histories dating back for millions, if not tens of millions of years. They would be gods in their technologies and abilities. We mortals would have absolutely no common ground with them, which kind of eliminates communications, trade, or even wars. if they wanted us dead, we would be. End of species.

Better that Phase World takes place amidst some of their wreckage, but that their surviving artifacts be utterly incomprehensible to anyone alive today.

we have the now defunct first ones, and those two races in the center of the anvil galaxy. thats it.

8 of the Elder Races will be mentioned by name in Fleets of the Three Galaxies, none of which are the Xodians nor the Kotsin!

Braden Campbell wrote:
They would be gods in their technologies and abilities.

Not neccessarily.

I mean the laws of reality (in game reality, of course ) might
be responsible for the "uniform" technologies, like CG and force fields,
and they can as well set the limits of technology as well.

The Prometheans and the Sploogs are good examples - they are clearly
something well over the capabilities of mortals, but certainly not 24/7,
and if they have a bad day against a lucky mortal, this can be their last
day.

Kinda like downing a B-2 with a flintlock. Unlikely, but theoretically
possible.
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But why this "static" Megaverse is good for us GM's and players?

There is no need for power creep (well, a less reduced one).

Technology is becoming more like the scenery of the drama, not
the source of the drama, leading to more character (read: personality)
oriented game.

Just my two cents.

Adios
KLM

Eight elder races not inclduing the two that were already mentioned. Sounds pretty cool. Any hints on how they'll fit into your "Fleets of the Three Galaxies"?

Aramanthus wrote:Eight elder races not inclduing the two that were already mentioned. Sounds pretty cool. Any hints on how they'll fit into your "Fleets of the Three Galaxies"?

Yeah. 5 of them are extinct, 1 of them very possibly refers to the 2nd Stage Prometheans. The last 2 are the Dominators, and the beings they use to power their Star Fortresses

Oooohhh Cool! Thank you for the teaser! I appreciate it!

Braden Campbell wrote:

glitterboy2098 wrote:
i've always wondered why the 3 galaxies setting didn't have more races like the Vorlon's, Shadows, Halo's forerunner's, or stargate's Ancients. various first one's, races that greatly predate the majority of races in the current age of trans-galactic society.

Most likely because, coming from the school of Stephen Baxter as I do, any of the "Elder Races" (and by that, I mean the people who were around after the First, but right up until the Dominator War, 50 000 years ago) would have evolutionary histories dating back for millions, if not tens of millions of years. They would be gods in their technologies and abilities. We mortals would have absolutely no common ground with them, which kind of eliminates communications, trade, or even wars. if they wanted us dead, we would be. End of species.

Better that Phase World takes place amidst some of their wreckage, but that their surviving artifacts be utterly incomprehensible to anyone alive today.

we have the now defunct first ones, and those two races in the center of the anvil galaxy. thats it.

8 of the Elder Races will be mentioned by name in Fleets of the Three Galaxies, none of which are the Xodians nor the Kotsin!

i was just figuring that such races should be
A) reasonably common, even if only from the recent distant past (distant recent past? we need better terms for this stuff...) a dozen or so per galaxy at least
B) provide great fodder for story arcs. the examples i gave above of the vorlon's and shadow's are a good example of this. manipulating younger races in a self-assumed "parent" role. other examples include things like the Ori and acsended ancients of stargate, which while not taking a direct hand in events, manipulate other races meerly for the ego boost it gives.
C) even if extinct, these races can create nifty story arcs. finding the remains of one such race, and sparking a "gold rush" of looters trying ot find surviving bits of technology, for example. or finding an ancient starship orbiting a black hole and making contact with it's crew or AI. or finding an ancient starship hidden somewhere as part of a war, and winding up the only hope of the region when the old enemies start waking up.

and so on.

There still could be other within the three galaxies. Some races could be reclusive. And finding even the ones Braden mentioned he is including hiding amongest the billion of stars could easily be hidden for eons. Especially when the race on purposely hides themselves.