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make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:21 pm
by ZINO
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sorry did not know that i was shouting frist time posting things will not do it again thnk for letting know
Should palladium make
A book of different spaceship ( with picture in the book and detail stuff
) , tech level should not be the same and allow to make ship from jet to capital ship like the SDF ship that are 3 miles long or larger ,to space dock from each major players and BIG company like N.E ( how the day light you say this name ).
what do you think please reply(thank you for reply)
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:32 pm
by Braden Campbell
If I hadn't already written it, I'd say it was a great idea
Fleets of the Three Galaxies should be coming out early next year (so they tell me, anyway), and will feature rough guidlines for creating space fighters, frigates, cruisers, and flagships.
This interview talks about it a bit, as well as the other Phase World projects tht I am planning:
http://www.echoesfromtherifts.com/wp-co ... sode-5.mp3
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:21 pm
by ZINO
Braden Campbell wrote:If I hadn't already written it, I'd say it was a great idea
Fleets of the Three Galaxies should be coming out early next year (so they tell me, anyway), and will feature rough guidlines for creating space fighters, frigates, cruisers, and flagships.
This interview talks about it a bit, as well as the other Phase World projects tht I am planning:
http://www.echoesfromtherifts.com/wp-co ... sode-5.mp3
wow thank you thank you for that info i hope they allow use to make fighter ship to capital ships and space dock
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:38 pm
by Carl Gleba
Rifter 34 has a nice set of rules to build small scale player character ships. That's what tides me over until we get Braden's book. Unfortunately it seems that the book is out of print.
Carl
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:49 pm
by ZINO
Carl Gleba wrote:Rifter 34 has a nice set of rules to build small scale player character ships. That's what tides me over until we get Braden's book. Unfortunately it seems that the book is out of print.
Carl
wow thank you for your reply
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:42 am
by DhAkael
IF one doesn't mind a little number crunching and fudging; use the Aliens Unlimmited; Galaxy Guide to create your vessels.
Scale up or down accordingly on the MDC / Speeds / sizes as needed.
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:18 am
by taalismn
The lower tech end (non-FTL drive capabilties) can also be supplemented by Mutants in Orbit(which has a lot of the same stuff from the Galaxy Guide, but is also couched in MDC terms)...
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:19 pm
by ZINO
taalismn wrote:The lower tech end (non-FTL drive capabilties) can also be supplemented by Mutants in Orbit(which has a lot of the same stuff from the Galaxy Guide, but is also couched in MDC terms)...
yes
i know that but really there should be a dedicated book or books set and allow players , GM to make fighetrs to spacedocks for PW ,( not just space station which is really really cool) not to have to convert from other PB like Mutants in Orbit or heros unlimited
.that player can go buy the rules set help gaming fun
that way player dont do the following
( i have over 40 players
)
dont get me wrong i like those books
there should of been a book for a while now dicated in PW , again palladium has done a OK job to good if they sit and put all together they will make awsome book dedicted for PW and ask for info from the players
on top of that there should be some level of technology like pre-rift to dimentional technology ( or i say areally hight tech to a low tech tech from different alien races) and finally if space is a problem then they shuold make one and the the rest on PDF like RIFTER 00
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:54 pm
by Aramanthus
It'll be nice when Braden's book comes out. I know I'm going to get it! There is also a thread here in this section of the forum with a lot Starships on it. Many for users of the forums. Try some of them out. And then there is always KItsune's. He's got a lot of ships over there for Phase World.
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-PW-Vehicles.htm Just something to think of.
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:16 am
by ZINO
Aramanthus wrote:It'll be nice when Braden's book comes out. I know I'm going to get it! There is also a thread here in this section of the forum with a lot Starships on it. Many for users of the forums. Try some of them out. And then there is always KItsune's. He's got a lot of ships over there for Phase World.
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-PW-Vehicles.htm Just something to think of.
yes this a awesome web site i give him credit , and thank you for his info
, now i got to get my color laser printer , and 1000 pages to print to put in a book in sheet protector
. well this very very good but PB can blow the water of this .and i don't have to deal with player say not in the rules or made up by someone not approve by PB . i have about 40 plus player that are starting to buy PB and try to follow his rule systems . this year i will have many GM to this year starting this year there are 50 plus player in September , GM will be a total of 5 or 6 for over 50 players
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:30 am
by gaby
zino make sense,ther are races that want to keep advantage over others.Keeping this tech exclusive to them only,never selling it.
Thers need to be different level of Spacefaring tech,
High Level are like the CCW and TGE they have master anti-matter allowing ther ships a higher speed,a more powerful forcefield,control over gravity allowing big ships to landed on the surface of plantes.
Weapons with a longer ranges and other things.
Middle level,can't go as Fast or as Far as CCW and TGE,s ships,Forcefield but not as powerful or long lasting,size limited to ships that can land,lower ranges and other things.
Low level,new to deep Space,slow ships,weak weapons,low range,no Forcefield,Spacial landing ships.
thing like this.
You can make it like star wars where every thing is equal for all races. it will get boring.
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:38 am
by ZINO
gaby wrote:zino make sense,ther are races that want to keep advantage over others.Keeping this tech exclusive to them only,never selling it.
Thers need to be different level of Spacefaring tech,
High Level are like the CCW and TGE they have master anti-matter allowing ther ships a higher speed,a more powerful forcefield,control over gravity allowing big ships to landed on the surface of plantes.
Weapons with a longer ranges and other things.
Middle level,can't go as Fast or as Far as CCW and TGE,s ships,Forcefield but not as powerful or long lasting,size limited to ships that can land,lower ranges and other things.
Low level,new to deep Space,slow ships,weak weapons,low range,no Forcefield,Spacial landing ships.
thing like this.
You can make it like star wars where every thing is equal for all races. it will get boring.
I am glad i am not alone in the night , i want to belive
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:26 pm
by ZINO
WOW thank you well got to go to my color laser printer ,PB is really behind someone fell asleep behind the wheel all these years . this is
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:21 am
by ZINO
el magico -- darklorddc wrote:Look through this forum for my thread, DarkMax's thread, Madman Mike's and several others...many of us have huge libraries of ships you can use.
They should tide you over until the book comes out.
That reminds me that I have to make an actual site for the Shipyard ships that are made soley for phaseworld...
LET ME KNOW WHEN IT'S READY, LOVE TO SEE YOUR WORK
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:30 am
by ZINO
DhAkael wrote:IF one doesn't mind a little number crunching and fudging; use the Aliens Unlimmited; Galaxy Guide to create your vessels.
Scale up or down accordingly on the MDC / Speeds / sizes as needed.
DON'T GET WRONG I DONE THAT ,STILL IF HEROES UNLIMITED CAN GET A CHART FOR MAKING SHIPS IN SDC ,WHY IS IT TAKING SOOOOOOO LONG FOR PB TO MAKE AT LEAST A CHART IN MDC TO MAKE FIGHTER TO STAR SHIP ,IT WOULD HELP BIG TIME FOR GM AND EASIER FOR PLAYERS ( NOT ARGUE OVER SDC TO MDC STATS WHICH HAPPENS A FEW TIMES )
PLEASE NOTE I AM NOT MAD IT JUST WELL , IT STOP PLAYER FROM DO THIS
OR TWO PLAYERS DOING THIS
OR DOING THIS
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:36 am
by ZINO
Carl Gleba wrote:Rifter 34 has a nice set of rules to build small scale player character ships. That's what tides me over until we get Braden's book. Unfortunately it seems that the book is out of print.
Carl
YES I LOVE THIS TO BUT WHEN YOU HAVE OVER 40 PLAYERS SOMETIMES THEY GET TOGETHER AND NOTICE THEY MAKE A SMALL FLEET , WHICH LATER THEY NED ONE BIG SHIP NOT A FIRATER SHIP ( FOR ME ONE BIG TARGET) AND NEED TO MODIFY A SHIP THE GM'S HAVE TO SIT AND FIGURE WHAT WILL WORK AND PLAYER ADD TO MODIFY MODIFY AND MODIFY .SOMETIME IF WE HAD E A CHART TO MAKE AN MDC SHIP IN PW, WE HAVE TO DO IT FROM THE GROUND UP USE SHIP IN PW ALREADY ( DOESN'T ALWAYS HELP BUT WE MANAGE
)
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:44 pm
by ZINO
sorry did not know that i was shouting frist time posting things will not do it again
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:14 pm
by Carl Gleba
Are the 40 players on line or in real life?
In either case...you da MAN!!
I thought i was good when I ran 22 to 24 players at the Palladium open house.
Carl
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:42 pm
by ZINO
Carl Gleba wrote:Are the 40 players on line or in real life?
In either case...you da MAN!!
I thought i was good when I ran 22 to 24 players at the Palladium open house.
Carl
in real life in high school where i work ,we have 20 to 3 around ,but it can get out of hand when we hit 40
( forgot i get help learning GM and the players help me too , but new one those everyone chips in helps a lot )
this year i am told there going up 50 plus new gm that a total of 5 steady it going to TOTAL war ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha evil GM laugh
this an underground club
i will be able to divide 10 to 15 per GM at worst at best less then 10 per GM
thank you i never sat to think about
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:52 am
by Aramanthus
Sounds like an interesting set of groups. Just one thing if you are the head GM you can take any material and make it canon in your game. If one player complains explain to him that you are the next best thing to god when the game is running. If he complains you could always make life tough for his character.
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:40 am
by MADMANMIKE
ZINO wrote:DhAkael wrote:IF one doesn't mind a little number crunching and fudging; use the Aliens Unlimmited; Galaxy Guide to create your vessels.
Scale up or down accordingly on the MDC / Speeds / sizes as needed.
DON'T GET WRONG I DONE THAT ,STILL IF HEROES UNLIMITED CAN GET A CHART FOR MAKING SHIPS IN SDC ,WHY IS IT TAKING SOOOOOOO LONG FOR PB TO MAKE AT LEAST A CHART IN MDC TO MAKE FIGHTER TO STAR SHIP ,IT WOULD HELP BIG TIME FOR GM AND EASIER FOR PLAYERS ( NOT ARGUE OVER SDC TO MDC STATS WHICH HAPPENS A FEW TIMES )
PLEASE NOTE I AM NOT MAD IT JUST WELL , IT STOP PLAYER FROM DO THIS
OR TWO PLAYERS DOING THIS
OR DOING THIS
..Two things; One: look at the dates on the product, Heroes hasn't had a chart done in like, 20 years. Two: Palladium Books has less than ten people on staff, and several lines to work on. Impatience isn't going to get you anywhere.
..Many of us have been playing for decades, we're used to waiting. The thing to remember is this: As the GM, you make the rules. House rules are the GM's perogative and the accepted norm in RPGs.
-MIke <8]
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:26 pm
by ZINO
el magico -- darklorddc wrote:That's wild. you have to have some organizational skills to keep that going.
yes set four to five table work with time and ALL players must take turn ,write there ideas ,and last location ,action , set them to different missions but related if one fail the other team has to make up for the team that fails ,( which always happen )
that a start set tech/magic player with OCC type ,use their weakness , let them fight one another it helps a lot ,
"fight form with and from the out side and one self "
and still complete the mission hundred or thousand pf live depend on you player ( this reminds me of bad company video games RPG style)
i will say this there are day that it is very hard,but fun
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:28 pm
by ZINO
el magico -- darklorddc wrote:That's wild. you have to have some organizational skills to keep that going.
use all PB BOOKS all the books
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:42 pm
by ZINO
Aramanthus wrote:Sounds like an interesting set of groups. Just one thing if you are the head GM you can take any material and make it canon in your game. If one player complains explain to him that you are the next best thing to god when the game is running. If he complains you could always make life tough for his character.
well there are days that one or two per table will compliant i remind everyone no god players i too am not a god
and explain the rule that are available in the books. i have a comment box i tell everyone take i will take the good ,the bad , the ugly my mistake ,BUT WILL NOT TAKE KISS UP. it work OK to very good most of the time ,i say the player know me well for four year at a time then go of their way in life
i hope i answer your post Aramanthus
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:00 pm
by ZINO
gadrin wrote:If you want a Spaceship Design System and don't mind using your brain a little bit
try this PDF from GURPS. It's a new system, much more streamlined and pretty easy,
not to mention cheap.
GURPS Spaceships>
i will look it up ,but i wish the RPG was PB
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:08 pm
by ZINO
MADMANMIKE wrote:ZINO wrote:DhAkael wrote:IF one doesn't mind a little number crunching and fudging; use the Aliens Unlimmited; Galaxy Guide to create your vessels.
Scale up or down accordingly on the MDC / Speeds / sizes as needed.
DON'T GET WRONG I DONE THAT ,STILL IF HEROES UNLIMITED CAN GET A CHART FOR MAKING SHIPS IN SDC ,WHY IS IT TAKING SOOOOOOO LONG FOR PB TO MAKE AT LEAST A CHART IN MDC TO MAKE FIGHTER TO STAR SHIP ,IT WOULD HELP BIG TIME FOR GM AND EASIER FOR PLAYERS ( NOT ARGUE OVER SDC TO MDC STATS WHICH HAPPENS A FEW TIMES )
PLEASE NOTE I AM NOT MAD IT JUST WELL , IT STOP PLAYER FROM DO THIS
OR TWO PLAYERS DOING THIS
OR DOING THIS
..Two things; One: look at the dates on the product, Heroes hasn't had a chart done in like, 20 years. Two: Palladium Books has less than ten people on staff, and several lines to work on. Impatience isn't going to get you anywhere.
..Many of us have been playing for decades, we're used to waiting. The thing to remember is this: As the GM, you make the rules. House rules are the GM's perogative and the accepted norm in RPGs.
-MIke <8]
note read frist
sorry did not know that i was shouting frist time posting things will not do it again think for letting know
Yes that true but i try avoiding use "House rules" for this can cause well you , it not that i can handled it but can some unexpected situations ,and yes it take PB awhile but if your making a space saga like PW world their should be chart to make ships to space dock in PW and printing the space then do PDF
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:40 am
by Aramanthus
It answers my question, but my players do understand the I'm the ultimate judge where my material comes from, not them. Good luck dealing with your players! You have my sympathies!
I have a lot of material of my own that I use too.
Gadrin, Thank you for the link!
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:56 am
by ZINO
Aramanthus wrote:It answers my question, but my players do understand the I'm the ultimate judge where my material comes from, not them. Good luck dealing with your players! You have my sympathies!
I have a lot of material of my own that I use too.
Gadrin, Thank you for the link!
yes i am going to need this year and lastly we need a book from PB that has at least a chart that GM and players can use .and yes being a GM sometimes putting my foot down when there are no rules for making a space fighter to a space dock which we sure need badly .
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:31 pm
by Aramanthus
That is one definative way of doing it. I'll keep having fun designing my own. I use it as a reference.
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:48 pm
by ZINO
duck-foot wrote:ZINO wrote:Aramanthus wrote:It answers my question, but my players do understand the I'm the ultimate judge where my material comes from, not them. Good luck dealing with your players! You have my sympathies!
I have a lot of material of my own that I use too.
Gadrin, Thank you for the link!
yes i am going to need this year and lastly we need a book from PB that has at least a chart that GM and players can use .and yes being a GM sometimes putting my foot down when there are no rules for making a space fighter to a space dock which we sure need badly .
you could always just use the galaxy guide book for HU2. jsut convert everything from SDC to MDC.
that true ,
but there has to be one book (s) dedicated for any space saga like phase world
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:58 pm
by Aramanthus
But at this time there is no unified book for building your own Starship, power armor, robot, or weapon. Although people still create their own material.
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:23 pm
by ZINO
Aramanthus wrote:But at this time there is no unified book for building your own Starship, power armor, robot, or weapon. Although people still create their own material.
that's the whole point too many "house rules "can damages a game setting , i seen this happen one to manyyyyyyyyyyyy times ,even GM who are starting , a good place to this would be rifter or ( in PDF)
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:25 pm
by ZINO
Aramanthus wrote:That is one definative way of doing it. I'll keep having fun designing my own. I use it as a reference.
if i had time me too,
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:48 pm
by Aramanthus
You will sometime have time. When you do take it and have fun designing stuff!
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:23 pm
by ZINO
Aramanthus wrote:You will sometime have time. When you do take it and have fun designing stuff!
Good one
Re: make spaceships book in PW
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:12 pm
by Aramanthus
It also allows you to personalize the setting to your own level.