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Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:00 pm
by Carl Gleba
Here we go again!
Inspired to try and draw the deck plans for the "Runner Ship" I found that once again I could not use the scale in the book. At least not with my limited drawing abilities
I should know better anyway. There are times when what the writer visualizes is different from what the artist draws or interprets. Hey that's ok, cause the Runner Ship in the drawing looks cool and I think that is what Palladium was shooting for anyway.
So instead of saying that this "is" the Runner Ship from DB2 Phase World I instead present the
Naruni Enterprises Cargo Hopper. Its based on the drawing of the runner ship, but yeah, there is no way I could make this baby 30 feet wide. It just wasn't going to happen. So lets just call this a different version of the Runner Ship. I would just keep the stats the same for ease of game play.
Critique is always welcome. I kind of did this on the Q/T. With my allergies bothering me lately I couldn't concentrate on writing. Thing is I still had the creative urge, so I did this instead.
Enjoy
Carl
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:57 pm
by GhostKnight
The picture doesn't show.
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:41 pm
by DhAkael
Carl Gleba wrote:Here we go again!
So instead of saying that this "is" the Runner Ship from DB2 Phase World I instead present the
Naruni Enterprises Cargo Hopper.
Carl
Broken link
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:23 pm
by GhostKnight
Works in IE but not Firefox.
Stats?
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:38 pm
by Carl Gleba
I just posted it on my website last night (8/28). I'm not sure why the link will work for some and not others. I have to add a link on my site tonight. When I do I'll direct folks there.
As el magico -- darklorddc pointed out. I'd use the Runner ship stats since this is what I based it on. The deck plans are meant as GM tools for those that use them. The Arcane Mark II was used in my last game as the players had to steal a Death Clound Cannon. Of course they ended up taking the ship, but the deck plans were still usefull.
Carl
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:26 pm
by Carl Gleba
el magico -- darklorddc wrote:Picture worked for me...good deck plans. Most rendering programs will have a grid and many will give you measurements.
I drop my models in Carrara and do some modeling work on them sometimes, and I keep every ship I create in one master file for scaling purposes. I have this big 3-D cube where all the ships sit to scale with one another. I click on one, and it tells me exactly what size, in feet, it is. This is how I get my ship measurements...and it prevents me from accidentally making decks 4 feet tall (this was an infamous blunder with the Enterprise and the Reliant in ST2: The Wrath of Kahn).
I'm just using Campaign Cartographer 3. Madmanmike hooked me up with poser when it was being offered for free. I've just not had the time to learn how to use it. I even bought a few of the models and ship parts to create stuff.
el magico -- darklorddc wrote:This is how I get my ship measurements...and it prevents me from accidentally making decks 4 feet tall (this was an infamous blunder with the Enterprise and the Reliant in ST2: The Wrath of Kahn).
This I did not know. Was that one one of the DVD's? I have the special edition and am wondering if I missed that fact?
I just added a link on
my Maps page. If anyone can't get to the page from the link above try going directly to
http://www.dimensionpress.com, go to "MY Maps" and then click on the link to the Naruni Cargo Hopper.
Carl
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:54 pm
by taalismn
Beautiful work there...
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:06 am
by KLM
Hi there!
Really nice.However - I cannot step over my shadow, I guess
- there are a few
suggestions:
1, Lascannons look like to have a limited arc of fire, namely forward only.
This is not an ideal distribution of defensive armament, to say so.
I suggest the two "nacelle" mounted ones to be mounted on the side of
the engine pods, maybe retractable, and the third one to be mounted
on the top of the upper bridge section.
2, Missile launcher "potrusions" better have a blast door to separate
them from cargohold, avoiding decompression and maybe backblast
into the cargo area (you know, where the reloads are).
3, Install a few - personal or maybe two persons' - escape pods near
the bridge. Something that keeps you alive for a week at most, then
become your coffin, which it resembles anyway.
4, Where is the minibar?
Adios
KLM
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:23 am
by taalismn
Hmmm...maybe the entire crew cabin detaches from the rest of the ship in an emergency?
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:01 pm
by DhAkael
IIIIIIIII LIKE IT!
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:19 pm
by Carl Gleba
KLM wrote:Hi there!
Really nice.However - I cannot step over my shadow, I guess
- there are a few
suggestions:
1, Lascannons look like to have a limited arc of fire, namely forward only.
This is not an ideal distribution of defensive armament, to say so.
I suggest the two "nacelle" mounted ones to be mounted on the side of
the engine pods, maybe retractable, and the third one to be mounted
on the top of the upper bridge section.
Perhaps if I have time I'll work out a variant based on these suggestions
Just by looking at the picture on page 172 I was given the impression that all weapon systems were fixed forward. I do however agree with you KLM. Turrets with an arc of fire make for a much better defence.
KLM wrote:2, Missile launcher "potrusions" better have a blast door to separate
them from cargohold, avoiding decompression and maybe backblast
into the cargo area (you know, where the reloads are).
Good point. I'll have to work on this.
KLM wrote:3, Install a few - personal or maybe two persons' - escape pods near
the bridge. Something that keeps you alive for a week at most, then
become your coffin, which it resembles anyway.
I'm half tempted to say that the whole crew area is a "second" ship. I was thinking of adding some engines to it. I'll have to see how I can work in an escape pod or two.
KLM wrote:4, Where is the minibar?
Adios
KLM
In the captains quarters
Thanks for the feedback KLM
Carl
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:02 am
by KLM
Just doing my job, sir!
A few points:
As for the upper section, it is more likely - IMO, of course - that it works
more like a "compartment" in ships and especially submarines - if the
rest of the ship is filled with holes and lacks life support, one can still
be alive in the crew compartment.
However if it happens and the wreck of the ship begins to fall towards
a planet, it is time to head for the escape pods.
As for the escape pods, as I vote for very small ones - basically a
coffin sized and even shaped thing, which can keep one or two
persons alive and survive a reentry. Basically the same as any flying
PA, just a little more protection against the enviroment and lacking
nuclear (or anti-matter, for that matter) powerplant, but instead operating
on batteries - for a few days. The exhausted life support kills the
passangers anyway before that time.
Weaponry: IMO we see a few slots on the graphics (two larger ones on
the four potrusions each and a row of smaller ones on the upper section).
Any or none of them can indicate the missile launchers, but no sign of
the lasers.
As a side note, the description speaks about "laser arrays" - so they
might not be shaped like a familiar "ball turret with a few barrels potruding".
Maybe like the phaser banks on ships of another sci-fi setting...?
Adios
KLM
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:59 am
by Marcethus
look awesome Carl.
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:40 am
by Jockitch74
Carl Gleba wrote:Here we go again!
Inspired to try and draw the deck plans for the "Runner Ship" I found that once again I could not use the scale in the book. At least not with my limited drawing abilities
I should know better anyway. There are times when what the writer visualizes is different from what the artist draws or interprets. Hey that's ok, cause the Runner Ship in the drawing looks cool and I think that is what Palladium was shooting for anyway.
So instead of saying that this "is" the Runner Ship from DB2 Phase World I instead present the
Naruni Enterprises Cargo Hopper. Its based on the drawing of the runner ship, but yeah, there is no way I could make this baby 30 feet wide. It just wasn't going to happen. So lets just call this a different version of the Runner Ship. I would just keep the stats the same for ease of game play.
Critique is always welcome. I kind of did this on the Q/T. With my allergies bothering me lately I couldn't concentrate on writing. Thing is I still had the creative urge, so I did this instead.
Enjoy
Carl
What program are you using for the deck plans?
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:18 pm
by Carl Gleba
Jockitch74 wrote:What program are you using for the deck plans?
Campaign Cartographer 3
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:48 pm
by batlchip
thank you for sharing carl.It's nice
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:27 pm
by Aramanthus
Very nice Carl! Thank you for sharing it!
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:30 am
by Jockitch74
Thanks
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:45 am
by DhAkael
Just a darn shame campaign cartographer costs an arm & leg and some of a persons spleen.
Seriously; it's over the top for price.
-sigh-
Guess if you want something done without getting beggered, you gotta do it yerself with photoshop...and lots & lots of patience (re; Landale 2, 3 decks plus bridge = 26 hours 17 minutes. Yeah, I clocked myself on total time spent working on it.)
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:46 pm
by Aramanthus
That is the reason I look for pics on line and then I make a description which describs the pic for the material I create. Of course I can't post a lot of it here.
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:37 pm
by Carl Gleba
DhAkael wrote:Just a darn shame campaign cartographer costs an arm & leg and some of a persons spleen.
Seriously; it's over the top for price.
-sigh-
Guess if you want something done without getting beggered, you gotta do it yerself with photoshop...and lots & lots of patience (re; Landale 2, 3 decks plus bridge = 26 hours 17 minutes. Yeah, I clocked myself on total time spent working on it.)
Some what cheaper
here.
Carl
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:45 pm
by Aramanthus
Cool! Thank you for the link Carl!
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:07 am
by Carl Gleba
Aramanthus wrote:Cool! Thank you for the link Carl!
My pleasure Aramanthus
I'm always looking for deals myself. FRP Games also puts some items on ebay so sometimes you can get them even cheaper. Still for what I do on CC3 I think its worth the price. I have to get around to updating some of my older maps done on CC2 to CC3. The new map effects are awesome.
Carl
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:13 am
by Aramanthus
It does make sense that you need to stay surrent with programs as a writer Carl! Please keep up the great work!
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:24 am
by gaby
Do any one,known a site that show the inside of Spaceships?
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:52 pm
by Carl Gleba
gaby wrote:Do any one,known a site that show the inside of Spaceships?
Do you have any particular ships in mind?
This site has a nice selection of Star Wars deck plans. Some of
Madmanmikes ships have interiors.
Carl
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:17 pm
by gaby
Well starfleet-museum have info.
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:43 am
by Aramanthus
I think Gadrin posted that site once before a few years ago. It's a great site! Thank you Carl for sharing the link again.
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:24 am
by gaby
Thers some thing call Future Armada that have the insides of space ships.
Re: Naruni Cargo Hopper - Based on Phase Worlds Runner Ship
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:54 pm
by Aramanthus
I've seen those ships. I used the illistrations for inspiration of ships I've created.