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The Beast wrote:

azazel1024 wrote:I vote yes to being acceptable.

If not, there wouldn't be a lot of TW gear in the world. Especially without a lot of gemstone mines going on in the post Rifts world, even using some recovered precious stones from pre-rifts times, there is going to be a certain lack of gem stones.

Especially as big as some of the stones need to be in some TW contraptions. Finding 1 carat diamonds might not be too hard. You'd have tens of thousands of pre-rifts engagement rings to pick over (if not millions). However, finding a 5 carat stone for something would be nearly impossible without synthetic creations.

If you want, and I've never thought on this much, I'd say that for a synthetic gem stone, the device has 3/4 of the range/duration/damage/payload as a natural gemstone. Simply reflecting the mysticalness of one created by the earth.

I mean, why not. It imparts some coolness, I guess.

Synthetic gem stones should cost 1/5th normal price (most aren't that hard to make, especially with MDC materials and the kind of anvils that would allow you to make).

From my understanding, alot of stones used today are synthetic.

anapuna wrote:how about it is a game and this was thought of back in 1984 and kevin may not have had time to investigate gemstone creation back then and just said it has to be natural. that way it keeps TWs from being to powerful by making gems cheap and making crap loads of money and / or having crap loads of shields and weapons and at their disposal.

or

he tought, hey it is magical it should be natural, because factory stones are just not natural.

i think this is the answer.

Akashic Soldier wrote:I'm surprised people cannot see the difference between natural and authentic gemstones.

In my game synthetic stones make great cheap wedding rings but you need natural gems for technowizardry.

flatline wrote:

Akashic Soldier wrote:I'm surprised people cannot see the difference between natural and authentic gemstones.

In my game synthetic stones make great cheap wedding rings but you need natural gems for technowizardry.

Please, tell us what the difference is.

--flatline

Zer0 Kay wrote:

flatline wrote:

Akashic Soldier wrote:I'm surprised people cannot see the difference between natural and authentic gemstones.

In my game synthetic stones make great cheap wedding rings but you need natural gems for technowizardry.

Please, tell us what the difference is.

--flatline

They are PERFECT. They have no natual link to the world.

wyrmraker wrote:While I can see the point of restricting TW items to natural gemstones, I also see a flaw. How many carats of gemstones go into every UWW vessel? Can the UWW honestly be mining that sheer quantity of raw, gem-quality stones? Or have they found a way to use artificially manufactured ones? I would think that Inglix the Mad would have figured that one out by now.

flatline wrote:

Zer0 Kay wrote:

flatline wrote:

Akashic Soldier wrote:I'm surprised people cannot see the difference between natural and authentic gemstones.

In my game synthetic stones make great cheap wedding rings but you need natural gems for technowizardry.

Please, tell us what the difference is.

--flatline

They are PERFECT. They have no natual link to the world.

Please define "natural link".

A synthetic stone can be created with all the same types of impurities and imperfections as a natural stone. If the physical properties of the stone are all that matter to technowizardry, then synthetic stones should probably be even better than natural stones since the physical properties can be tailored to the need.

--flatline

SAMASzero wrote:Which is why I prefer the "newness" idea. A slight reiteration from before:

Consider the "Songjuice", the Liquid trace P.P.E. Australian Songjuicers can extract from objects. A gemstone has had millennia to accumulate natural energy passing through it's lattice and compressed during it's formation. An artificial gem is raw, empty. If a Songjuicer tried to use it, he'd get nothing.

Essentially, it hasn't been primed with any energy.

Dr Megaverse wrote:I took a look around the forums and didn't see anything on these questions so I thought I'd make a new post.

Can lab created gems (emeralds, sapphires, rubys, etc) be used in a TW construct?

Are there any limitations on the kinds of devices which can be converted to utilize both a TW power source and a conventional power source?

Thank you!

Mack wrote:

flatline wrote:So what's the difference between stones made in a lab and those made deep underground?

Chemically and physically, they can be made indistinguishable. Why should technowizardry work with one but not the other?

Because it's not science, it's magic.