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Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:33 am
by Arnie100
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:35 am
by Colonel Wolfe
Arnie100 wrote:http://www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=691:palladium-booksr-weekly-update-november-1-2013&catid=52:weekly-updates&Itemid=183
This will be a hot, early 2014 release.
Ah, like it was a
September 2009 release?
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:23 am
by Arnie100
Colonel Wolfe wrote:Arnie100 wrote:http://www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=691:palladium-booksr-weekly-update-november-1-2013&catid=52:weekly-updates&Itemid=183
This will be a hot, early 2014 release.
Ah, like it was a
September 2009 release?
Well, at least it has cover art...
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:46 am
by Chris0013
I've learned to just keep an eye on Palladium's website and be pleasantly surprised when it is available.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:35 am
by Kagashi
Colonel Wolfe wrote:Arnie100 wrote:http://www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=691:palladium-booksr-weekly-update-november-1-2013&catid=52:weekly-updates&Itemid=183
This will be a hot, early 2014 release.
Ah, like it was a
September 2009 release?
Thanks for reminding me we will never get the spaceship book(s). Now I'm Palladium depressed again.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:46 pm
by MilkManX
Well the cover looks pretty good. Can't wait to get it in 2021.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:25 am
by mech798
Well, we now have Four more days before another deadline has been officially missed
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:31 pm
by Seto Kaiba
mech798 wrote:Well, we now have Four more days before another deadline has been officially missed
Eh... I can personally attest that Hell* has, in fact, frozen over several times in recent weeks and snow is expected there at several times in the coming days. Are we counting that as a missed target too?
* Okay, so it's just Hell, MI... but still...
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:32 am
by Lt Gargoyle
i would not count on seeing this title anytime soon, and I bet it will not come out before 2015 at best. palladium books time line for getting anything out bits.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:22 am
by Colonel Wolfe
Lt Gargoyle wrote:i would not count on seeing this title anytime soon, and I bet it will not come out before 2015 at best. palladium books time line for getting anything out bits.
I'm thinking 1stQ or early 2ndQ... much later than that and I'll be writing off Palladium for another 5 years, or until they produce some Hover-tank minis for tactics.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:12 am
by Lt Gargoyle
Colonel Wolfe wrote:Lt Gargoyle wrote:i would not count on seeing this title anytime soon, and I bet it will not come out before 2015 at best. palladium books time line for getting anything out bits.
I'm thinking 1stQ or early 2ndQ... much later than that and I'll be writing off Palladium for another 5 years, or until they produce some Hover-tank minis for tactics.
well I would get ready for your five years. The track record shows they put everything behind the rifts books, and even those are behind schedule regularly. And I will not get into tactics until they are making mini for the other two eras.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:17 am
by Kryptt
AlexM wrote:We've got it scheduled for December, 2013.
Alex Marciniszyn
I nearly spit out my drink when I read this!
Anyways it's coming out Q1 of next year along with the other two RT books that are on track to come out Q1. At least that's what I read on one these threads or updates. Anyways time for bed this drink has me sleepy now. Night y'all.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:52 am
by jaymz
Kryptt wrote:AlexM wrote:We've got it scheduled for December, 2013.
Alex Marciniszyn
I nearly spit out my drink when I read this!
Anyways it's coming out Q1 of next year along with the other two RT books that are on track to come out Q1. At least that's what I read on one these threads or updates. Anyways time for bed this drink has me sleepy now. Night y'all.
Keep spitting. I do not recall the last time they got 3 books out by summer let alone the 1st quarter.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:59 am
by Colonel Wolfe
jaymz wrote:Kryptt wrote:AlexM wrote:We've got it scheduled for December, 2013.
Alex Marciniszyn
I nearly spit out my drink when I read this!
Anyways it's coming out Q1 of next year along with the other two RT books that are on track to come out Q1. At least that's what I read on one these threads or updates. Anyways time for bed this drink has me sleepy now. Night y'all.
Keep spitting. I do not recall the last time they got 3 books out by summer let alone the 1st quarter.
its a rarity that its 3 books in one year... counting rifters
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:37 pm
by Seto Kaiba
Well, in this particular book's case we have to wonder WHERE the actual bottleneck is in the production process?
Is it Palladium setting and missing overly optimistic release dates?
Is it the editor-in-chief not satisfied with what he's getting from his writer, thus holding the book up in approvals?
Is it Harmony Gold, holding the book up in approvals because it doesn't meet their criteria?
Is it Harmony Gold, holding the book up because the legal approvals are slow in coming while Tatsunoko's attention is elsewhere?
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:49 pm
by Colonel Wolfe
ZINO wrote:any good news UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
They changed the name thou it's REF marines now.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:18 am
by ScottBernard
Seto Kaiba wrote:Well, in this particular book's case we have to wonder WHERE the actual bottleneck is in the production process?
Is it Palladium setting and missing overly optimistic release dates?
Is it the editor-in-chief not satisfied with what he's getting from his writer, thus holding the book up in approvals?
Is it Harmony Gold, holding the book up in approvals because it doesn't meet their criteria?
Is it Harmony Gold, holding the book up because the legal approvals are slow in coming while Tatsunoko's attention is elsewhere?
The first one of course. And sometimes the second.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:40 am
by jaymz
ScottBernard wrote:Seto Kaiba wrote:Well, in this particular book's case we have to wonder WHERE the actual bottleneck is in the production process?
Is it Palladium setting and missing overly optimistic release dates?
Is it the editor-in-chief not satisfied with what he's getting from his writer, thus holding the book up in approvals?
Is it Harmony Gold, holding the book up in approvals because it doesn't meet their criteria?
Is it Harmony Gold, holding the book up because the legal approvals are slow in coming while Tatsunoko's attention is elsewhere?
The first one of course. And sometimes the second.
In this case I'd say all four to varying degrees.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:46 am
by Kagashi
jaymz wrote:ScottBernard wrote:Seto Kaiba wrote:Well, in this particular book's case we have to wonder WHERE the actual bottleneck is in the production process?
Is it Palladium setting and missing overly optimistic release dates?
Is it the editor-in-chief not satisfied with what he's getting from his writer, thus holding the book up in approvals?
Is it Harmony Gold, holding the book up in approvals because it doesn't meet their criteria?
Is it Harmony Gold, holding the book up because the legal approvals are slow in coming while Tatsunoko's attention is elsewhere?
The first one of course. And sometimes the second.
In this case I'd say all four to varying degrees.
Agreed. On top of point 1 which is always a problem, Palladium has to make Harmony Gold happy with the product as well. HG isn't exactly known for releasing products on time either.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:11 pm
by Seto Kaiba
Kagashi wrote:Agreed. On top of point 1 which is always a problem, Palladium has to make Harmony Gold happy with the product as well. HG isn't exactly known for releasing products on time either.
Yeah, I've read plenty of grumbling on those first two points... though since this isn't Palladium-owned IP, I imagine that the latter two are playing a fairly significant role as well. Harmony Gold's got a fairly comprehensive oversight power as part of their contract with Palladium this time around, and supposedly they're actually (halfheartedly) using it. I have to wonder if there isn't a bigger problem being caused by the use of non-
Robotech non-production
MOSPEADA concept art in UEEF Marines. It's something outside the scope of Harmony Gold's preexisting license agreement with Tatsunoko.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:33 pm
by Lt Gargoyle
Well, id say don't hold your breath for it, but be happy when it finallly comes out. After all what's the point of getting over excited for this book? Beyond the fact we all want it. But I want the space ship book as well and we will never get that either!
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:28 pm
by mech798
Seto Kaiba wrote:Kagashi wrote:Agreed. On top of point 1 which is always a problem, Palladium has to make Harmony Gold happy with the product as well. HG isn't exactly known for releasing products on time either.
Yeah, I've read plenty of grumbling on those first two points... though since this isn't Palladium-owned IP, I imagine that the latter two are playing a fairly significant role as well. Harmony Gold's got a fairly comprehensive oversight power as part of their contract with Palladium this time around, and supposedly they're actually (halfheartedly) using it. I have to wonder if there isn't a bigger problem being caused by the use of non-
Robotech non-production
MOSPEADA concept art in UEEF Marines. It's something outside the scope of Harmony Gold's preexisting license agreement with Tatsunoko.
In all truthfulness, even a small company like HG probably doesn't see a lot of money from licensing the game. That's a problem a lot of licensees have-- the IP holder has the right to review things, but often not a lot of incentive to say, handle it with dispatch. This can be, from personal experience a BIG problem is the company isn't large enough to have a dedicated individual/group focused on IP licensing matters-- in that case if often devolves to "whoever has the time." Sometimes "whoever has the time" doesn't equal "someone who has final authority."
On the other hand, there are certain points that you can depend on, or to put it differently, if a company says "yes, yes, yes." and ten at the last moment demands a complete rewrite, that IP had better be worth pure gold (as in Star Wars levels) or you'd just be better abandoning it.
Equally, let's just say: "mechanoids space." One does not have to assume shenanigans on HG's part to justify this product being late
.
Re: When IS the UEEF Marine sourcebook supposed to come out?
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:33 pm
by Seto Kaiba
mech798 wrote:This can be, from personal experience a BIG problem is the company isn't large enough to have a dedicated individual/group focused on IP licensing matters-- in that case if often devolves to "whoever has the time."
True enough, I've had the same experience myself on more occasions than I care to number... though, unless authority over there has changed hands recently, Harmony Gold does have someone whose primary job is the management of licenses. The actual approvals have to go past the desk of the creative director though, so that's likely a bottleneck on their end.
