Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:24 pm
Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
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Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
Mech-Viper wrote:umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
now class turn to page 16 in your rue book go down to you find japan and read the entire japan thing
Killer Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
now class turn to page 16 in your rue book go down to you find japan and read the entire japan thing
Strangely enough, you'll find that I don't consider RUE to be a valid source of information on what was intended 15 years before it was written.
It's been updated to include all the changes since Rifts came out, so it's irrelevent in a discussion about the original intentions laid out in the main book.
vitae_drinker wrote:It's like the "Can the Enterprise take a Star Destroyer?" debate.
huh? what a load of bull, KCKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
now class turn to page 16 in your rue book go down to you find japan and read the entire japan thing
Strangely enough, you'll find that I don't consider RUE to be a valid source of information on what was intended 15 years before it was written.
It's been updated to include all the changes since Rifts came out, so it's irrelevent in a discussion about the original intentions laid out in the main book.
Seraphim wrote:I'm done wasting my breath with this.
Mech-Viper wrote:huh? what a load of bull, KCKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
now class turn to page 16 in your rue book go down to you find japan and read the entire japan thing
Strangely enough, you'll find that I don't consider RUE to be a valid source of information on what was intended 15 years before it was written.
It's been updated to include all the changes since Rifts came out, so it's irrelevent in a discussion about the original intentions laid out in the main book.
but hey you not going to take Erin Tarn own words saying she never been and would love to there, then hey, each to thier own bub.
Gomen_Nagai wrote:my god, this shouldn't even be a debate, I think alot of the people seeking these arguments are insane and should stay on their medications
how about Enterprise vs a Star destoryer vs a battlestarRainOfSteel wrote:vitae_drinker wrote:It's like the "Can the Enterprise take a Star Destroyer?" debate.
That is a very serious quesiton, I'll have you know.
The Enterprise can take a Star Destroyer on any date it wants to, and Starfleet and the Imperial Fleet can't do anything about it, because they can't keep an eye on both of them all the time, can they?
psionicninja2000 wrote:Gomen_Nagai wrote:my god, this shouldn't even be a debate, I think alot of the people seeking these arguments are insane and should stay on their medications
You've noticed I quietly pulled out of this debate...
the guess the point should be does it really matterKalinda wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:huh? what a load of bull, KCKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
now class turn to page 16 in your rue book go down to you find japan and read the entire japan thing
Strangely enough, you'll find that I don't consider RUE to be a valid source of information on what was intended 15 years before it was written.
It's been updated to include all the changes since Rifts came out, so it's irrelevent in a discussion about the original intentions laid out in the main book.
but hey you not going to take Erin Tarn own words saying she never been and would love to there, then hey, each to thier own bub.
But we're not talking about erin tarn's words or intentions, we're talking about Kevin Siembieda's intentions 15 years ago.
Mech-Viper wrote:the guess the point should be does it really matterKalinda wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:huh? what a load of bull, KCKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
now class turn to page 16 in your rue book go down to you find japan and read the entire japan thing
Strangely enough, you'll find that I don't consider RUE to be a valid source of information on what was intended 15 years before it was written.
It's been updated to include all the changes since Rifts came out, so it's irrelevent in a discussion about the original intentions laid out in the main book.
but hey you not going to take Erin Tarn own words saying she never been and would love to there, then hey, each to thier own bub.
But we're not talking about erin tarn's words or intentions, we're talking about Kevin Siembieda's intentions 15 years ago.
Seraphim wrote:Sureshot wrote:For myself I prefer some sort of consistency in the world. More often than not the world changes not because it enhances the background, it to sell the next new shiny Rifts book. Which I understand but eventually one gets tired of seeing that. Japan imo is a good example of that.
Yes one can change it. Though sometimes it just good that they work from what they original intended rather than trying to make it more cooler than it original was.
I can totally see that. I guess it would be pretty frustrating to get a good mental picture of the world only to have it change periodically due to a whim or marketing decision.
You just like commenting for absolutely NO reason don't youMech-Viper wrote:yup same hereKalinda wrote:psionicninja2000 wrote:Gomen_Nagai wrote:my god, this shouldn't even be a debate, I think alot of the people seeking these arguments are insane and should stay on their medications
You've noticed I quietly pulled out of this debate...
I said my piece and washed my hands of it as well.
All of them vs. one Shadow Destroyer or a Vorlon Cruiser or a Minbari Destroyer... continuous directed beam weapons rule!!!Mech-Viper wrote:how about Enterprise vs a Star destoryer vs a battlestarRainOfSteel wrote:vitae_drinker wrote:It's like the "Can the Enterprise take a Star Destroyer?" debate.
That is a very serious quesiton, I'll have you know.
The Enterprise can take a Star Destroyer on any date it wants to, and Starfleet and the Imperial Fleet can't do anything about it, because they can't keep an eye on both of them all the time, can they?
Quick beat everyone that said they left, but then came back, with a hearing!!!!!! I mean stick like thisRainOfSteel wrote:psionicninja2000 wrote:Gomen_Nagai wrote:my god, this shouldn't even be a debate, I think alot of the people seeking these arguments are insane and should stay on their medications
You've noticed I quietly pulled out of this debate...
And then re-entered it.
EXACTLY!!!Kalinda wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:the guess the point should be does it really matterKalinda wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:huh? what a load of bull, KCKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
now class turn to page 16 in your rue book go down to you find japan and read the entire japan thing
Strangely enough, you'll find that I don't consider RUE to be a valid source of information on what was intended 15 years before it was written.
It's been updated to include all the changes since Rifts came out, so it's irrelevent in a discussion about the original intentions laid out in the main book.
but hey you not going to take Erin Tarn own words saying she never been and would love to there, then hey, each to thier own bub.
But we're not talking about erin tarn's words or intentions, we're talking about Kevin Siembieda's intentions 15 years ago.
Not really.
TechnoGothic wrote:I'm going to go with this about JAPAN...
PEOPLE did in fact check out JAPAN...way before the High-tech Cities returned though...
They would see little villages here and there, and thats it...of course Monsters & Demons too, but they somehow manage...
Lazlo investigators would consider this place quant cluster of islands, and thats it...no need to return anytime soon...
THEN.....THEN.....
a decade or so later, the High-Tech Cities return as through magic
And the rest of their History is as is written.....
I'm suprised You all didnt think of this as a possibility...
as do you huh?Zer0 Kay wrote:You just like commenting for absolutely NO reason don't youMech-Viper wrote:yup same hereKalinda wrote:psionicninja2000 wrote:Gomen_Nagai wrote:my god, this shouldn't even be a debate, I think alot of the people seeking these arguments are insane and should stay on their medications
You've noticed I quietly pulled out of this debate...
I said my piece and washed my hands of it as well.
YupMech-Viper wrote:as do you huh?Zer0 Kay wrote:You just like commenting for absolutely NO reason don't youMech-Viper wrote:yup same hereKalinda wrote:psionicninja2000 wrote:Gomen_Nagai wrote:my god, this shouldn't even be a debate, I think alot of the people seeking these arguments are insane and should stay on their medications
You've noticed I quietly pulled out of this debate...
I said my piece and washed my hands of it as well.
well then its settledZer0 Kay wrote:YupMech-Viper wrote:as do you huh?Zer0 Kay wrote:You just like commenting for absolutely NO reason don't youMech-Viper wrote:yup same hereKalinda wrote:psionicninja2000 wrote:Gomen_Nagai wrote:my god, this shouldn't even be a debate, I think alot of the people seeking these arguments are insane and should stay on their medications
You've noticed I quietly pulled out of this debate...
I said my piece and washed my hands of it as well.
what is? Oh wait I'm supposed to disagree. Nuh uhMech-Viper wrote:well then its settledZer0 Kay wrote:YupMech-Viper wrote:as do you huh?Zer0 Kay wrote:You just like commenting for absolutely NO reason don't youMech-Viper wrote:yup same hereKalinda wrote:psionicninja2000 wrote:Gomen_Nagai wrote:my god, this shouldn't even be a debate, I think alot of the people seeking these arguments are insane and should stay on their medications
You've noticed I quietly pulled out of this debate...
I said my piece and washed my hands of it as well.
i would like to hear your thoughts on this topicZer0 Kay wrote:what is? Oh wait I'm supposed to disagree. Nuh uhMech-Viper wrote:well then its settledZer0 Kay wrote:YupMech-Viper wrote:as do you huh?Zer0 Kay wrote:You just like commenting for absolutely NO reason don't youMech-Viper wrote:yup same hereKalinda wrote:psionicninja2000 wrote:Gomen_Nagai wrote:my god, this shouldn't even be a debate, I think alot of the people seeking these arguments are insane and should stay on their medications
You've noticed I quietly pulled out of this debate...
I said my piece and washed my hands of it as well.
Mech-Viper wrote:how about Enterprise vs a Star destoryer vs a battlestarRainOfSteel wrote:vitae_drinker wrote:It's like the "Can the Enterprise take a Star Destroyer?" debate.
That is a very serious quesiton, I'll have you know.
The Enterprise can take a Star Destroyer on any date it wants to, and Starfleet and the Imperial Fleet can't do anything about it, because they can't keep an eye on both of them all the time, can they?
TechnoGothic wrote:I'm going to go with this about JAPAN...
PEOPLE did in fact check out JAPAN...way before the High-tech Cities returned though...
They would see little villages here and there, and thats it...of course Monsters & Demons too, but they somehow manage...
Lazlo investigators would consider this place quant cluster of islands, and thats it...no need to return anytime soon...
THEN.....THEN.....
a decade or so later, the High-Tech Cities return as through magic
And the rest of their History is as is written.....
I'm suprised You all didnt think of this as a possibility...
Seraphim wrote:RainOfSteel wrote:Seraphim wrote:I'm done wasting my breath with this.
You weren't wasting any to start with . . .
I knew some smart aleck would point out that I was typing. Sheesh, literal minded grumble, grumble...
Mech-Viper wrote:huh? what a load of bull, KCKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
now class turn to page 16 in your rue book go down to you find japan and read the entire japan thing
Strangely enough, you'll find that I don't consider RUE to be a valid source of information on what was intended 15 years before it was written.
It's been updated to include all the changes since Rifts came out, so it's irrelevent in a discussion about the original intentions laid out in the main book.
but hey you not going to take Erin Tarn own words saying she never been and would love to there, then hey, each to thier own bub.
RainOfSteel wrote:KC,
Ok, the following are givens.
1) Japan was, originally, viewed as a destroyed ruin of broken islands.
2) Japan is now different since WB8:Japan arrived.
3) You don't like the changes introduced by WB8, feeling the prevoius was superior.
And . . .
I eagerly await the product of your imagination describing your set up in Japan.
RainOfSteel wrote:TechnoGothic wrote:I'm going to go with this about JAPAN...
PEOPLE did in fact check out JAPAN...way before the High-tech Cities returned though...
They would see little villages here and there, and thats it...of course Monsters & Demons too, but they somehow manage...
Lazlo investigators would consider this place quant cluster of islands, and thats it...no need to return anytime soon...
THEN.....THEN.....
a decade or so later, the High-Tech Cities return as through magic
And the rest of their History is as is written.....
I'm suprised You all didnt think of this as a possibility...
It's been thought of, just not brought up in this topic until now.
Killer Cyborg wrote:
In my game world, Japan on Rifts Earth is a pretty quiet place that's almost entirely devoid of MDC capabilities and MDC threats.
Other than a few fishing villages, it's wilderness.
Frankly, that's how I think most of Rifts Earth should be... low (or zero) population, low-tech, low-powered.
What's the point of having an apocalypse if every nation on the planet rebuilds itself, and there are cities everywhere?
Killer Cyborg wrote:
In my game world, Japan on Rifts Earth is a pretty quiet place that's almost entirly devoid of MDC capabilities and MDC threats.
Other than a few fishing villages, it's wilderness.
Killer Cyborg wrote:Frankly, that's how I think most of Rifts Earth should be... low (or zero) population, low-tech, low-powered.
What's the point of having an apocalypse if every nation on the planet rebuilds itself, and there are cities everywhere?
Killer Cyborg wrote:And it would even be easier to get to for characters in North America... it's easier to wander through a random rift and end up in another dimension than it is to travel to the other side of the planet.
no i was addressing a question about erin tarn i saw, not your "there nothing to see hear, move along japan"Killer Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:huh? what a load of bull, KCKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:umm yesKiller Cyborg wrote:Mech-Viper wrote:Erin Tarn has never been to japan and she ever stated she would love to visit japan
Interesting theory.
Now find anything in the main book that backs it up.
now class turn to page 16 in your rue book go down to you find japan and read the entire japan thing
Strangely enough, you'll find that I don't consider RUE to be a valid source of information on what was intended 15 years before it was written.
It's been updated to include all the changes since Rifts came out, so it's irrelevent in a discussion about the original intentions laid out in the main book.
but hey you not going to take Erin Tarn own words saying she never been and would love to there, then hey, each to thier own bub.
You don't seem to understand the point of this thread.
Dr. Doom v.3.2.5 wrote:Killer Cyborg wrote:
In my game world, Japan on Rifts Earth is a pretty quiet place that's almost entirely devoid of MDC capabilities and MDC threats.
Other than a few fishing villages, it's wilderness.
Frankly, that's how I think most of Rifts Earth should be... low (or zero) population, low-tech, low-powered.
What's the point of having an apocalypse if every nation on the planet rebuilds itself, and there are cities everywhere?
It's been 300 years.
You want stagnation instead of rebuilding?
Killer Cyborg wrote:I want realism, and 300 years is not a long time when after getting knocked back to the stone age (Iron age at best).
Where did you get that idea? Germany was largely untouched. Even North America had many pre rifts factories and military installations remain mostly intact. More like a technological dark age (meaning severe impairment but not total loss) than a new iron age.Killer Cyborg wrote:Dr. Doom v.3.2.5 wrote:Killer Cyborg wrote:
In my game world, Japan on Rifts Earth is a pretty quiet place that's almost entirely devoid of MDC capabilities and MDC threats.
Other than a few fishing villages, it's wilderness.
Frankly, that's how I think most of Rifts Earth should be... low (or zero) population, low-tech, low-powered.
What's the point of having an apocalypse if every nation on the planet rebuilds itself, and there are cities everywhere?
It's been 300 years.
You want stagnation instead of rebuilding?
I want realism, and 300 years is not a long time when after getting knocked back to the stone age (Iron age at best).
Killer Cyborg wrote:Dr. Doom v.3.2.5 wrote:Killer Cyborg wrote:
In my game world, Japan on Rifts Earth is a pretty quiet place that's almost entirely devoid of MDC capabilities and MDC threats.
Other than a few fishing villages, it's wilderness.
Frankly, that's how I think most of Rifts Earth should be... low (or zero) population, low-tech, low-powered.
What's the point of having an apocalypse if every nation on the planet rebuilds itself, and there are cities everywhere?
It's been 300 years.
You want stagnation instead of rebuilding?
I want realism, and 300 years is not a long time when after getting knocked back to the stone age (Iron age at best).
RainOfSteel wrote:Killer Cyborg wrote:
In my game world, Japan on Rifts Earth is a pretty quiet place that's almost entirly devoid of MDC capabilities and MDC threats.
Other than a few fishing villages, it's wilderness.
What about the giant major magic triangle that is just southeast of Japan?
Are there no demon and d-bee threats pouring out of it?
Or is that triangle just quieter than the others?
Killer Cyborg wrote:Frankly, that's how I think most of Rifts Earth should be... low (or zero) population, low-tech, low-powered.
What's the point of having an apocalypse if every nation on the planet rebuilds itself, and there are cities everywhere?
Places to go, things to do, don'ch'ya know?
I'm not too far behind you on this. My Rifts nations have what are to me more realistic military troop strengths, etc. I can't leave the whole Earth unpopulated, though. Sorry about that one.
Mech-Viper wrote:no i was addressing a question about erin tarn i saw, not your "there nothing to see hear, move along japan"Killer Cyborg wrote:
You don't seem to understand the point of this thread.
Killer Cyborg wrote:I haven't heard of it, so it must be in the Japan book.RainOfSteel wrote:What about the giant major magic triangle that is just southeast of Japan?
Are there no demon and d-bee threats pouring out of it?
Or is that triangle just quieter than the others?
Which means that it doesn't exist in my version of Rifts Earth.
Hell, man, there are folks in The Other Game who STILL don't want Gunpowder there (and there is a cheesy, 'Gods have decreed that Gunpowder and most Tech just doesn't work in this Game Setting' Explanation to back it up) ..........Dr. Doom v.3.2.5 wrote:Killer Cyborg wrote:
In my game world, Japan on Rifts Earth is a pretty quiet place that's almost entirely devoid of MDC capabilities and MDC threats.
Other than a few fishing villages, it's wilderness.
Frankly, that's how I think most of Rifts Earth should be... low (or zero) population, low-tech, low-powered.
What's the point of having an apocalypse if every nation on the planet rebuilds itself, and there are cities everywhere?
It's been 300 years.
You want stagnation instead of rebuilding?
Killer Cyborg wrote:RainOfSteel wrote:What about the giant major magic triangle that is just southeast of Japan?
Are there no demon and d-bee threats pouring out of it?
Or is that triangle just quieter than the others?
I haven't heard of it, so it must be in the Japan book.
Which means that it doesn't exist in my version of Rifts Earth.
Killer Cyborg wrote:RainOfSteel wrote:Things to do, places to go, don'ch'ya know?
As for places to go... My group ran nearly 15 years almost exclusively in North America.
Killer Cyborg wrote:I want realism, and 300 years is not a long time when after getting knocked back to the stone age (Iron age at best).
Killer Cyborg wrote:I haven't heard of it, so it must be in the Japan book.
Which means that it doesn't exist in my version of Rifts Earth.
Dr. Doom v.3.2.5 wrote:Killer Cyborg wrote:I haven't heard of it, so it must be in the Japan book.
Which means that it doesn't exist in my version of Rifts Earth.
The 5 demon seas are in the main book.