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Re: Cloaking super power from Heroes Unlimitd converted to Rifts

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:39 am
by Captain Shiva
You can use the power pretty much as is,I think. It would not affect TW devices,though.Now,this is just my opinion,but full conversion borgs should still be able to see you,but they would not get any bonuses from any high tech sensors to hit you in combat.This power will be incredibly useful in Rifts.

Re: Cloaking super power from Heroes Unlimitd converted to Rifts

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:33 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
It needs no conversion.

And actually, no, Full Conversion borgs could not see you, nor could anyone with cybernetic or bionic eyes.

And I can think of no reason why TW would not be effected.

Re: Cloaking super power from Heroes Unlimitd converted to Rifts

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:34 pm
by Shark_Force
Nekira Sudacne wrote:It needs no conversion.

And actually, no, Full Conversion borgs could not see you, nor could anyone with cybernetic or bionic eyes.

And I can think of no reason why TW would not be effected.

TW is not actually technological. now if you had a TW device that provided, say, thermo vision technologically and then also provided a TW enhancement that lets you see the invisible, the thermo part wouldn't work (because it actually is technological) but the see the invisible part would work fine imo (though it wouldn't allow the thermo vision to see the cloaked character, as he's not actually invisible, merely undetectable to technological sensors; in the event the character was using an invisibility spell, the TW portion of the goggles would see through when activated)

Re: Cloaking super power from Heroes Unlimitd converted to Rifts

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:41 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
Shark_Force wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:It needs no conversion.

And actually, no, Full Conversion borgs could not see you, nor could anyone with cybernetic or bionic eyes.

And I can think of no reason why TW would not be effected.

TW is not actually technological. now if you had a TW device that provided, say, thermo vision technologically and then also provided a TW enhancement that lets you see the invisible, the thermo part wouldn't work (because it actually is technological) but the see the invisible part would work fine imo (though it wouldn't allow the thermo vision to see the cloaked character, as he's not actually invisible, merely undetectable to technological sensors; in the event the character was using an invisibility spell, the TW portion of the goggles would see through when activated)


TW is both technolgical AND magical. That's why it's called TW. If it wasn't technological, then it'd be no different from other magic weapons.

Re: Cloaking super power from Heroes Unlimitd converted to Rifts

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:43 pm
by Captain Shiva
Nekira Sudacne wrote:It needs no conversion.

And actually, no, Full Conversion borgs could not see you, nor could anyone with cybernetic or bionic eyes.

And I can think of no reason why TW would not be effected.

My rationale was the same one behind the idea that FCBs are affected by neither Bio-Manipulation nor the various Telemechanics powers.Since they are neither wholly organic nor wholly technological in nature,they are unaffected by some things.And since TW devices are not machines in the conventional sense,they are also not affected.These exceptions also help keep a player with Cloaking from unbalancing the game.