Rifts Japan 2

anarchclown · Unread post by **anarchclown** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:15 am

Someone was doing Rifts Japan 2 or something. Or was that just a pipe dream of mine? Who was doing that and if anyone knows, is he/she active here on the forums?

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:06 am

I also like to see it.

Japan 1 did not have any Npc,s,I hope whoever makes it,will have NPC,s from each of the powers in japan.

anarchclown · Unread post by **anarchclown** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:36 am

Among other things. I was also wondering if I will get a new update just handed to me by someone official or if I will have to update things myself.

anarchclown · Unread post by **anarchclown** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:03 am

Yeah. I know they are being kind of slow. Especially since they are also publishing a lot of stuff that I find less useful (meaning I will still probably buy it) and not enough Rifts World Books and Rifts Dimension Books not about Phase World.

Nekira Sudacne · Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:48 am

The Author who wrote Japan 1 and was supposed to write Japan 2 died. So the chance of Japan 2 coming out are pretty much 0.

drewkitty ~..~ · Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:03 pm

The Galactus Kid wrote:Japan 2 is going to have a lot of information about magic weapons and their forging, as well as new magic weapons.

From the soul stuff topic in the Dimensions forum.

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:18 pm

Why can't they find someone else to writer it?

runebeo · Unread post by **runebeo** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:42 pm

I know it would be a little cheesy but am I the the only one who would like to see a few races of truly gigantic monsters? I so love giant turtles with organic thrusters and all the other monsters that like to trash Tokyo every once in awhile. Rifts has everything else so why not something for this fan group.

Nekira Sudacne · Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:46 pm

runebeo wrote:I know it would be a little cheesy but am I the the only one who would like to see a few races of truly gigantic monsters? I so love giant turtles with organic thrusters and all the other monsters that like to trash Tokyo every once in awhile. Rifts has everything else so why not something for this fan group.

They do. They're called Alien Intelligences.

The Baron of chaos · Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:57 pm

Zerebus wrote:
runebeo wrote:I know it would be a little cheesy but am I the the only one who would like to see a few races of truly gigantic monsters? I so love giant turtles with organic thrusters and all the other monsters that like to trash Tokyo every once in awhile. Rifts has everything else so why not something for this fan group.

So you want cyborg animals from a Colossal level dimension to invade, eh?

Well I for first would love a pair of things:
Kajiu/Giant monster, because we have to justify those giant humanoid robots. Seriously this is true not just for japan.
Kankoran/kitsune and other D-bees: I still remain in the opinion that kankoran should be for japan what wolfen are for italy, and there should be some hiint of what d-bees are in Asia and in japan expecially
Monsters and Yokai of japan: For the chronicle jpanas mythology is enough elastic to allow any conversion for any palladium system(Nightbane expecially, they would fit perfectly the concept of bakemono).
Onmyoji: Shifter specialized in bonding with supernatural creatures. Inspiration of thousand of so anime and card games(gonna catch'em all!), and other Magic and/or psionic class specific of japan(there are not just Ninjas!!)
More TW ninja equpment!!

drewkitty ~..~ · Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:18 pm

I wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:Japan 2 is going to have a lot of information about magic weapons and their forging, as well as new magic weapons.

From the soul stuff topic in the Dimensions forum.

Zerebus wrote:
gaby wrote:Why can't they find someone else to writer it?

Good question. Seems to me they could just start from scratch.

Unless TGK is just bragging about someone else's work, I think they have a writer.

anarchclown · Unread post by **anarchclown** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:26 pm

So the galactus kid is the one that has written it?

Dustin Fireblade · Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:44 pm

Nekira Sudacne wrote:The Author who wrote Japan 1 and was supposed to write Japan 2 died. So the chance of Japan 2 coming out are pretty much 0.

I'm pretty sure if Kevin Siembieda passed away, we would have heard about it. Likewise with Patrick Nowak and CJ Carella.

(I'm pretty sure you are thinking of the China books, both 1 & 2, written by Erick Wujcik)

anarchclown · Unread post by **anarchclown** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:47 pm

Was thinking the same thing but didn't really care to comment.

glitterboy2098 · Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:08 pm

last i heard, Japan 2 was a The Galactus Kid production...

The Galactus Kid · Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:49 pm

I am working on japan 2 with my brother in law, Matthew Orr. Our first collaborative work was the official material in rifter 50. We are working on the sovietski, then japan 2, and then he is working on rifts India.

anarchclown · Unread post by **anarchclown** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:25 am

Africa wasn't that power creepy really. Underseas on the other hand. *Shudders*

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:43 am

duck-foot wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:I am working on japan 2 with my brother in law, Matthew Orr. Our first collaborative work was the official material in rifter 50. We are working on the sovietski, then japan 2, and then he is working on rifts India.

cool, i liked triax 2, i liked madhaven. you seem to shy away from power creep which is awesome (i could not stand africa or SA books), just dont fall into that trap........

Because Africa had soooo much power creep. :nh:

Africa barely had anything, except a ton of Fluff and four one hit wonders. How is the Fatboy GB not power creep? It is half way to the giant freaking turtle and definately over the ATL-7 one of the most toted power creep weapons which has since been surpassed a couple times.
Madhaven was interesting, I thought the flying GB was too rediculous but the freaking PA with the feathers that can fly was just plain stupid. Really? it can fly just because it has feathers, not even some hokey explination like a high frequency field vibrating the feathers at high speeds creates lift... nope just because they're feather they can fly. At least the SAMAS wings could be shaped to create lift.

Shadow Wyrm · Unread post by **Shadow Wyrm** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:11 pm

Zer0 Kay wrote:
duck-foot wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:I am working on japan 2 with my brother in law, Matthew Orr. Our first collaborative work was the official material in rifter 50. We are working on the sovietski, then japan 2, and then he is working on rifts India.

cool, i liked triax 2, i liked madhaven. you seem to shy away from power creep which is awesome (i could not stand africa or SA books), just dont fall into that trap........

Because Africa had soooo much power creep. Africa barely had anything, except a ton of Fluff and four one hit wonders. How is the Fatboy GB not power creep? It is half way to the giant freaking turtle and definately over the ATL-7 one of the most toted power creep weapons which has since been surpassed a couple times.
Madhaven was interesting, I thought the flying GB was too rediculous but the freaking PA with the feathers that can fly was just plain stupid. Really? it can fly just because it has feathers, not even some hokey explination like a high frequency field vibrating the feathers at high speeds creates lift... nope just because they're feather they can fly. At least the SAMAS wings could be shaped to create lift.

I know that alot of people find the SA books to be full of power creep, but CWC, Japan,and Triax 2 are far worse in my opinion. Those 3 titles have way to much in them, I find dropping around half of the new equipment tones them down to a more reasonable level. Start first with the really big stuff and work your way down.

Wooly · Unread post by **Wooly** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:36 pm

Nekira Sudacne wrote:The Author who wrote Japan 1 and was supposed to write Japan 2 died. So the chance of Japan 2 coming out are pretty much 0.

Who are you talking about?

Pat Nowak?

I didn't think he was dead.

anarchclown · Unread post by **anarchclown** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:37 pm

Favourite fact from old Rifts Japan. I am assuming this was one of Kevins less stellar days when he came up with the statistics for augmentation within society. Apparently 7% of the population are Juicers even though this process is illegal.

Seneca · Unread post by **Seneca** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:42 pm

anarchclown wrote:Favourite fact from old Rifts Japan. I am assuming this was one of Kevins less stellar days when he came up with the statistics for augmentation within society. Apparently 7% of the population are Juicers even though this process is illegal.

Ah but they are a pre-rifts civilization which means this 7% can also be people using the JAEP system from WB:5 which should not be illegal.

anarchclown · Unread post by **anarchclown** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:27 pm

JAEP was just developed in NGR and have been in use for 10 years according to the old Triax book, so they are not using that. I just think KS wasn't thinking when he wrote that. Stuff like that happens.

Lucas · Unread post by **Lucas** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:53 pm

how many people carry guns in cities even thou it is agaist the law....

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:00 pm

I know I'm dreaming when I say this but I hope I get to see Chi somewhere in Japan 2...

Shark_Force · Unread post by **Shark_Force** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:15 am

Colt47 wrote:I know I'm dreaming when I say this but I hope I get to see Chi somewhere in Japan 2...

i'm guessing you'll see the word chi, but it will be in a sentence that goes something like: "Chi is actually just regular PPE with absolutely zero different rules whatsoever involved."

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:48 am

Shark_Force wrote:
Colt47 wrote:I know I'm dreaming when I say this but I hope I get to see Chi somewhere in Japan 2...

i'm guessing you'll see the word chi, but it will be in a sentence that goes something like: "Chi is actually just regular PPE with absolutely zero different rules whatsoever involved."

Yes, and it is a sentence I'm going to dread for the 3rd or 4th time in a row. :lol:

The Galactus Kid · Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:29 am

As of now, there are no plans for Chi. Rifts has turned Chi into P.P.E. or I.S.P. depending on where you are (apparently) so there will be some discussion on reconciling the two, but pure Chi as it is in N&SS will not show up.

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:34 pm

If there is one power source conundrum in this game that makes me scratch my head, it's ISP / PPE. I have no idea why the game requires ISP to exist, as it works and behaves exactly like PPE (You have X amount of ISP and once you are at zero you can not use any powers) and it directly converts to PPE on a two to one basis. By simply rewriting all the powers that involve detecting magic and psionics to base the detection on the OCC (or if the character rolled up as a psychic) one could completely eliminate ISP with no Ill effect.

The primary reason I get annoyed every time I see Chi converted into the ISP/PPE system is that Chi doesn't work anything like PPE/ISP, and it actually simplifies and demystifies certain abilities. For example, the stone giants in spirit West use spirits of sickness as an attack that basically mimics negative chi attacks. However, because there is no chi stat in rifts, the author of the monster had to have the effects of negative chi infection built into the power. Likewise, if someone wanted to make another power on a different monster that utilized negative chi effects, they would have to similarly build in the same kind of effect into the ability description. It is just inefficient when there is a statistic written up by another author that can cover the effect under a global stat. The power source probably should be called Life Force instead of Chi, though.

The Galactus Kid · Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:52 pm

I'm not disagreeing with you. As a freelance writer, I have to stay consistant with the books previously published.

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:18 pm

The Galactus Kid wrote:I'm not disagreeing with you. As a freelance writer, I have to stay consistant with the books previously published.

And I'm not blaming you for anything. Sometimes I just feel like I see some of the ghosts of the old Plane Scape deal from Dungeons and Dragons hitting this game.

The Galactus Kid · Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:30 pm

Ninjabunny wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:I'm not disagreeing with you. As a freelance writer, I have to stay consistant with the books previously published.

You better get writting fast Aten or no brownies and the ninja will come for you

Sovietski first...Japan second.

The Galactus Kid · Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:37 pm

Ninjabunny wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:
Ninjabunny wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:I'm not disagreeing with you. As a freelance writer, I have to stay consistant with the books previously published.

You better get writting fast Aten or no brownies and the ninja will come for you

Sovietski first...Japan second.

Russia doesn't have ninja!

But they have Spetznaz. They actually gas an entire theater of their own people just to potentially kill one ninja that might be inside. They just don't give a ****.

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:01 pm

Well, yeah the dragon borgs were getting a bit on the odd side. I know they enjoyed Robo Cop and a few other things, but I somehow doubt that anyone would want to be turned into one of those Freakish looking things. I'd imagine their borgs might look a little bit more like the critters from Ergo Proxy or Ghost in the Shell. However, as actual attack robots I could easily see the robotic dragon deal working.

Killer Cyborg · Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:50 am

Young Freud wrote:Imagine if the NGR book had robots built like Valkyries with folding metal wings, boobguns and monofilament braids. Or they had Glitter Boy built in the form of Prussian Junkers, with gold filagree epaulets, a vibro-saber, and a apple-cheeked and bearded facsimile of a human face (with a pre-cut Heidelberg dueling scar) like some sort of giant nutcracker.

Don't.

Give.

Them.

Ideas.

Shark_Force · Unread post by **Shark_Force** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:09 pm

Colt47 wrote:Well, yeah the dragon borgs were getting a bit on the odd side. I know they enjoyed Robo Cop and a few other things, but I somehow doubt that anyone would want to be turned into one of those Freakish looking things. I'd imagine their borgs might look a little bit more like the critters from Ergo Proxy or Ghost in the Shell. However, as actual attack robots I could easily see the robotic dragon deal working.

i dunno, the japanese do some pretty crazy stuff *today*.

GaredBattlespike · Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:13 pm

I want to see more about "In the daily life of..." sort of information.
I also would like to see more artwork! More hot ladies kicking evil's rear end and looking so fine doing so!!! Sorry, but IMHO, I find the hottest women come from two different islands: The fiery redheads of Ireland, and the raven haired hotties of Japan!
I'd like to see a few major NPC's stated and put into good artwork!
A new varient of the Dragon-Borg would be nice!

Good Gaming, GaredBattlespike

The Galactus Kid · Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:57 pm

Ninjabunny wrote:honestly having Brandon work on the social aspects is a great Ideal that was my fav part of Traix 2

I just have to say that while we talked a lot about the social elements together, Taylor really did the lions share of the social elements. I mainly did the political and the military history and organization elements.

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:51 pm

Ninjabunny wrote:
Colt47 wrote:Well, yeah the dragon borgs were getting a bit on the odd side. I know they enjoyed Robo Cop and a few other things, but I somehow doubt that anyone would want to be turned into one of those Freakish looking things. I'd imagine their borgs might look a little bit more like the critters from Ergo Proxy or Ghost in the Shell. However, as actual attack robots I could easily see the robotic dragon deal working.

I can the dragon-borgs appearing easily on the world of rifts earth, I think cannon states they made them before the Republic shifted to rifts earth but I could see them designing them once reaching rifts earth as the dragon is a terrifying image.

Oh the problem isn't that someone might have invented the Chassis. :lol:

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:22 am

Well They could Add New D-Bees race,japanese form of Magic,A few Npc,s for Repbulic and New Empire,Update on Oni.

The Galactus Kid · Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:20 pm

Japanese Gods, magic, monsters, and demons. Thats the plan.

DBX · Unread post by **DBX** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:46 am

The Galactus Kid wrote:Japanese Gods, magic, monsters, and demons. Thats the plan.

expansion on the demon quellers from japan book would be good

more on the t-men of south korea

this japan 2 sounds like it's going to be the japan 2 mentioned in japan 1. if so that is a good thing IMO

drewkitty ~..~ · Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:31 pm

amodernheathen wrote:Magical girls! We need more magical girls!

*LOL did the anime fan*

TechnoGothic · Unread post by **TechnoGothic** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:46 pm

Japanese Gods huh ?
I kind of fear the arrivial of Son Goku (japan's Sun Wukong). specially mixed with anime. LOL.
Wonder if he will have the Monk of Internal Energy OCC too. LOL.

glitterboy2098 · Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:01 pm

TechnoGothic wrote:Japanese Gods huh ?
I kind of fear the arrivial of Son Goku (japan's Sun Wukong). specially mixed with anime. LOL.
Wonder if he will have the Monk of Internal Energy OCC too. LOL.

actually, thats more of a Chinese mythology/folklore

japanese mythology is beings like Ameterasu goddess of the sun, Tsukuyomi god of the moon, and Susanoo, lord of storms. then you have the more folkore stories of Kintaro the 'golden boy', and momotaro, kaguya the moon princess, and so on. you also have thinks like tanuki (shapechanging raccon-dogs), Kitsune (shapechanging fox's), and so on.

and thats the traditional dieties. with shinto and it's many kami (spirits), you have a very rich mythic cycle and folklore to draw on.

csbioborg · Unread post by **csbioborg** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:42 pm

will the tanuki be standard issue for lecherous bishamon monks with wind tunnels in their hand?

Kagashi · Unread post by **Kagashi** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:04 am

Japan needs an aircraft that matches altitudes of other interceptors on Rifts Earth. Something that can fly up to 60k feet like current Triax aircraft. Or even a Dragon Borg that can do it (that would be neat). I dont see how a society that is effectively a pre-Rifts nation doesnt have superior aircraft.

You would think they could have built up their Navy by 110 PA as well. Perhaps not blue water (yet)...but at least something that can patrol the coast of China and perhaps try to bridge the gap between the two settings.

Kagashi · Unread post by **Kagashi** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:06 am

anapuna wrote:

remember that south of the mainland is a giant american military installation. is it all gone? did it survive on it's own independant of japan and is pretty much all NEMA? does it know about the lord of the deep? is it in contact with any of the undersea facilities? are there tons of fighters, bombers and PA just siting there? is there another archie computer there? all it says is that horune pirates are under the seas in a test space station okinawa is not mentioned on the surface. are the horune on the surface too?

Great point on the American instillation. Lots to do with it. However, I do not think it would have a lick of NEMA equipment. NEMA was supposed to be disaster response for North America. Prolly has US Air Force and US Navy equipment, like New Navy stuff plus USA SAMAS from Spirit West.

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:16 pm

The Galactus Kid wrote:Japanese Gods, magic, monsters, and demons. Thats the plan.

what No mech or robots that not japan ...........or is it????

The Galactus Kid · Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:55 am

ZINO wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:Japanese Gods, magic, monsters, and demons. Thats the plan.

what No mech or robots that not japan ...........or is it????

There may be a Japan 3 which expands the Republic of Japan, but as for now, thats not in my outline. All of that may change though.