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Shape Shifting

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:53 am
by sirkermittsg
I have one of the original heros unlimited books.... 1st edition.

the description for shape shifting indicates imitate voices as being +15%
but it does not describe bonuses to disguise or impersonation skills which I would think it would give because well you could copy all of their features exactly if given the oppertunity to study them up close. Do the later editions of HU give bonuses for this power?

Re: Shape Shifting

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:26 pm
by Severus Snape
Yes, they do. +15% to imitate/impersonate voices; +15% to disguise; +5% to streetwise. Although I have ZERO idea why you'd get a bonus to Streetwise when Shapechanging.

Re: Shape Shifting

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:38 pm
by Nightmask
Severus Snape wrote:Yes, they do. +15% to imitate/impersonate voices; +15% to disguise; +5% to streetwise. Although I have ZERO idea why you'd get a bonus to Streetwise when Shapechanging.


It makes it easier to fit in as part of the seedy underbelly and convince others to provide you with what you want perhaps?

Re: Shape Shifting

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:50 pm
by Severus Snape
Nightmask wrote:
Severus Snape wrote:Yes, they do. +15% to imitate/impersonate voices; +15% to disguise; +5% to streetwise. Although I have ZERO idea why you'd get a bonus to Streetwise when Shapechanging.


It makes it easier to fit in as part of the seedy underbelly and convince others to provide you with what you want perhaps?

Just because you can look and sound like someone doesn't mean you automatically have a chance to know what they do. Qui-Gon said it best: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.

Re: Shape Shifting

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:56 pm
by Nightmask
Severus Snape wrote:
Nightmask wrote:
Severus Snape wrote:Yes, they do. +15% to imitate/impersonate voices; +15% to disguise; +5% to streetwise. Although I have ZERO idea why you'd get a bonus to Streetwise when Shapechanging.


It makes it easier to fit in as part of the seedy underbelly and convince others to provide you with what you want perhaps?


Just because you can look and sound like someone doesn't mean you automatically have a chance to know what they do. Qui-Gon said it best: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.


True, but given it's a bonus to the skill of Streetwise you already know what to do, Shape-Shifting is just helping with your already existing knowledge and skill in the area to improve on it.

Re: Shape Shifting

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:38 pm
by guardiandashi
Nightmask wrote:
Severus Snape wrote:
Nightmask wrote:
Severus Snape wrote:Yes, they do. +15% to imitate/impersonate voices; +15% to disguise; +5% to streetwise. Although I have ZERO idea why you'd get a bonus to Streetwise when Shapechanging.


It makes it easier to fit in as part of the seedy underbelly and convince others to provide you with what you want perhaps?


Just because you can look and sound like someone doesn't mean you automatically have a chance to know what they do. Qui-Gon said it best: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.


True, but given it's a bonus to the skill of Streetwise you already know what to do, Shape-Shifting is just helping with your already existing knowledge and skill in the area to improve on it.

one of Mercedes Lackey's "elemental masters" books had a perfect example of how a person could use that (altho he was using it with his clothes) as he walks through different neighborhoods he was changing things like how he was walking the tilt (or presence of his hat, his jacket etc. in the good neighborhoods he walked upright tall "proud" etc as the neighborhoods got worse he made his walk/ clothes etc look more and more disreputable.

a "shifter could do similar things but with their body to make them "blend into" the neighborhood