UEEF Marine Corps Sourcebook

[Arnie100]

Imagine having to clean the toilets after some joker puts in a giant-sized cherry bomb!!

[Aramanthus]

Imagine how much a plumber could charge to fix those problems.

[Lt Gargoyle]

thats wrong the poor janitors, may very well need to be sent out after that.

[taalismn]

Cherry Bomb?
Excuse me, but Zentraedi plumbing maintenance MEANS high explosives!
Hair clog in the drain? Depth charge it.
Gung plug in the main? Depth charge it.
Gas bubbles in the pipes? Depth charge it.
Micronians in the works? Depth charge 'em.

[jedi078]

Micronians in the works? Depth charge 'em.

Funny that has been done in my PBP game.

The three Zentraedi player characters were trying to recapture the six micronian player characters. A few micronians were swimming in the ‘grey waste water’ reservoir. A few others were on catwalks. While one of the zents firing his energy rifle into the water, another was chucking grenades left and right, and then when he ran out performed a cannon ball into the water reservoir. The third Zentraedi was micronized and masquerading as a micronian and was almost killed by the two macronized Zentraedi's actions.

In the end two micronians were killed by Zentraedi sized grenades, another drowned, and one was captured then placed in stasis to prevent further escape. The last two micronians swam out of there like half drowned dogs.

[Aramanthus]

I suppose that plumbers that the Zentraedi would get would have to be human. And they'd have to have access to some seriously good quality or better diving gear to make sure they could get to the Zentraedi plumbing problems.

[taalismn]

Micronians in the works? Depth charge 'em.

Funny that has been done in my PBP game.

The three Zentraedi player characters were trying to recapture the six micronian player characters. A few micronians were swimming in the ‘grey waste water’ reservoir. A few others were on catwalks. While one of the zents firing his energy rifle into the water, another was chucking grenades left and right, and then when he ran out performed a cannon ball into the water reservoir. The third Zentraedi was micronized and masquerading as a micronian and was almost killed by the two macronized Zentraedi's actions.

In the end two micronians were killed by Zentraedi sized grenades, another drowned, and one was captured then placed in stasis to prevent further escape. The last two micronians swam out of there like half drowned dogs.

Ouch...and how much damage was done to the water system?
"Ah, Brak? The guys down in Hangar Level Eighteen want to have a word with you about a big LEAK in the ceiling?"

[jedi078]

Ouch...and how much damage was done to the water system?

A quarter of the ships toilets backed up (it was Zent. Landing ship), and in typical 1980’s cartoon bad guy fashion, while the Zentraedi PC’s were responsible for all of the damage, they blamed it all on the Micronian PC’s. The Zent's PC's (all officers) were then ordered to clean up all the backed up toliets.

[Aramanthus]

And after the blast several deck are flooded from toilets backing up into them. Ewww. Now that is a job for a superior janitor without a sense of smell.

[Chris0013]

And after the blast several deck are flooded from toilets backing up into them. Ewww. Now that is a job for a superior janitor without a sense of smell.

Or a guy with a very twisted fetish.....

[Arnie100]

And after the blast several deck are flooded from toilets backing up into them. Ewww. Now that is a job for a superior janitor without a sense of smell.

Breetai: Khyron, you failed me to many times. I have a very special job for you...
Khyron: Dammit, if I get my hands on that joker...(mop, mop, wipe, mop, mop)

[jedi078]

And after the blast several deck are flooded from toilets backing up into them. Ewww. Now that is a job for a superior janitor without a sense of smell.

Breetai: Khyron, you failed me to many times. I have a very special job for you...
Khyron: Dammit, if I get my hands on that joker...(mop, mop, wipe, mop, mop)

The characters immediate superior was executed because they trashed the recycling system.

[Lt Gargoyle]

And after the blast several deck are flooded from toilets backing up into them. Ewww. Now that is a job for a superior janitor without a sense of smell.

Breetai: Khyron, you failed me to many times. I have a very special job for you...
Khyron: Dammit, if I get my hands on that joker...(mop, mop, wipe, mop, mop)

[Aramanthus]

LOL Now that is the perfect job for Khyron! Too bad we couldn't get Edwards to help him.

[taalismn]

LOL Now that is the perfect job for Khyron! Too bad we couldn't get Edwards to help him.

Edwards IS the mophead...

[RiverJack]

Cool I dont mind the Marine Corps I hope some how they well put the R.E.F Raidar X mk XI back in with its bros. Also I wish that Navy pilots used Destroids I can see special Navy divisions using Destorids for underWater missions heck maby Mecha sized Navy S.E.A.L. type missions that require the best of the best of Destroid pilots.

Makes me wish that an all Navy sourcebook was comming out! =]

[Chris0013]

We need some sort of ammo carrier for cyclone riders...lets face it...the cargo boxes drop off and you can't exactly keep having to run back to them to get more ammo....some sort of box that will mount to some point on the armor and is accessible while in armor mode....

The -038 could have carriers on the arm shields that would hold 2 reloads for the RL-6 each.....you pop out the RL-6 mag and can pop one of these in for a full 6 round reload.....2 of the reloads per arm for a total of 24 missiles on top of the 6 in the weapon to start.....could work for the EP-37 as well.

Maybe mag carriers in the hip / upper leg armor for the EP-40 or H-90 rifle mags as well.

[jedi078]

We need some sort of ammo carrier for cyclone riders...lets face it...the cargo boxes drop off and you can't exactly keep having to run back to them to get more ammo....some sort of box that will mount to some point on the armor and is accessible while in armor mode....

A simple GM’s ruling, (a combination of observation and common sense) can fix this design flaw, as well as others.

If you look at the positions of the cargo boxes they could very well stay on....the rear box is right behind the operator's head in battloid mode, while the side boxes just need to rotate forward during transformation so the open end is up and the operator can pull stuff out of them.

The front part of the operators thigh is the only place to stash ammo and a holster for a sidearm when wearing CVR-3 and wanting to use a cyclone. I have played with the idea that the lower legs of the heavier CVR-3 suit has a compartment for magazines.

Also for zero G ops the side car doesn't need to detach as there is no gravity.

As for the -038 there is nothing that says the opposite arm cannot carry a GR-97 launcher, same thing goes for the -052T. Nor is there anything saying cyclone forearm weapon systems are not interchangeable. Fact is the book even says Cyclones are maximized for versatility (page 91 hard back). Common sense would dictate forearm weapon systems BE interchangeable. This would not mean PC’s get what ever forearm weapon system they want. After all they are in the military and thus are issued equipment dependant on mission.

[Chris0013]

I fully support the idea of the interchangeable arm shields....that is actually one of the thing I want to see as far as art in the UEEF Marine and NG sourcebooks.....I would just like some Canonized extra ammo carrriers...as for having the GR-97 on the -038 you could put one on each arm for 4 additional missiles....however...with the ammo carriers I am talking about they could carry 24 additional missiles...they would not be ready to fire right away but with a quick mag change they would be able to continue the fight

by the hip / leg armor I am talking about the parts that cover the rear swingarm connecting the bike to the rear axle / wheel....when in armor mode they look like they could take at least on mag apiece that would come thru the top

[glitterboy2098]

If you look at the positions of the cargo boxes they could very well stay on....the rear box is right behind the operator's head in battloid mode, while the side boxes just need to rotate forward during transformation so the open end is up and the operator can pull stuff out of them.

the cargo boxes are pretty bulky though, so having them remain on the unit in battlesuit mode would likely result in some mobility problems.

i'd rather see a "saddlebag" version, which are smaller pouch like containers in a \\\\ arrangement on a magclamp, so they open up and forwards in cycle mode and up and back in battlesuit. pouches big enough for things like grenades, or a small side arm, but small enough to not interfear with the trandformation of the battlesuit's mobility.

[jedi078]

If you look at the positions of the cargo boxes they could very well stay on....the rear box is right behind the operator's head in battloid mode, while the side boxes just need to rotate forward during transformation so the open end is up and the operator can pull stuff out of them.

the cargo boxes are pretty bulky though, so having them remain on the unit in battlesuit mode would likely result in some mobility problems.

If it was a normal person with a WWII era 'jump bag' yeah I'd agree, but we are talking about a person wearing power armor here. Their augmented strength should be more the enough to handle a pair of cargo/munitions boxes.

[Lt Gargoyle]

With the exception of the sabers, I support the interchangeable for arm shield weapons. But I do not see the cargo boxes being a good idea on the hips of the battle armor. It would change the dynamics of the suit and would hinder a lot of the bonuses granted. In zero gravity it might be less as there is no resistance but bending and twisting maybe a bit harder with them on.
In gravity it would actually throw the wearer off especially when trying to dodge blast. So I think they were designed with logical thought with that in mind.
As for making extra ammo container for the arm shields are you really wanting to carry those explosives on your arm when shooting at your opponents. I think placing them in specialized attachments that sit in the place of the containers that way when they transform modes they are on the hips. Though I would think they would only hold a single mini-missile reload of six each.

[Lt Gargoyle]

If you look at the positions of the cargo boxes they could very well stay on....the rear box is right behind the operator's head in battloid mode, while the side boxes just need to rotate forward during transformation so the open end is up and the operator can pull stuff out of them.

the cargo boxes are pretty bulky though, so having them remain on the unit in battlesuit mode would likely result in some mobility problems.

If it was a normal person with a WWII era 'jump bag' yeah I'd agree, but we are talking about a person wearing power armor here. Their augmented strength should be more the enough to handle a pair of cargo/munitions boxes.

I agree with Glitterboy with this, power armor is not going to change the way the body works. The power armor suit still has some limits.

[glitterboy2098]

and it's not strength thats the isue, it's bulk. go strap a medium sized carboard box to each of your thighs,and see how well your able to move around, how much range of motion remains. that's the functional equivilent of leaving the cyclone's storage boxes on in battlesuit mode.

[jedi078]

and it's not strength thats the isue, it's bulk. go strap a medium sized carboard box to each of your thighs,and see how well your able to move around, how much range of motion remains. that's the functional equivilent of leaving the cyclone's storage boxes on in battlesuit mode.

But in Power armor it isn't going to make a difference. Besides many an infantrymen have gone into combat with bulky gear.

[Lt Gargoyle]

and it's not strength thats the isue, it's bulk. go strap a medium sized carboard box to each of your thighs,and see how well your able to move around, how much range of motion remains. that's the functional equivilent of leaving the cyclone's storage boxes on in battlesuit mode.

But in Power armor it isn't going to make a difference. Besides many an infantrymen have gone into combat with bulky gear.

But that gear slows them down and hinders thier range of motion, and they are not running around with large contaners that and sticking out past their legs by a minimum of 8 inches per side.

[MikelAmroni]

Best thing I would say they could have on them are straps that can be easily grasped in battloid mode, so you could bring them with you when in Battloid, and not necessarily have a problem. I could even see carrying both in one hand, as long as you're not trying to dodge and fight (with a penalty if you do).

[Lt Gargoyle]

I would think there would be strapes on them myself for carrying myself. if not i do not see it being to hard to manufature them and putting them on.

[Lt Gargoyle]

Lastly, I also had a sort of modified super bunker concept I did use. Each bunker stretched from the outer walls of a typical pair of bunkers under a Horizont, but was a single bunker. The Alpha launch bay was gone, and the neck was heavier with a second pair of attachment points for and aft. There were barracks types, command post types, medical types, Alpha/Destroid bay types, orbital defense types, basically, I had it set up that a single Ikazuchi could carry 16 modified heavy lift Horizont shuttles and their super bunkers, and drop a fairly powerful garrison force on a planet to function as a forward deterrent element or mop up element while the Ikazuchi carried on with its patrols. This idea came about because I could emplace a PC group on a newly discovered planet, give them decent backup, but deny them orbital fire support and effectively limitless reinforcements. Worked pretty well too. I actually had a player draw up the Horizont-HL and several of the bunkers, but I lost that data years ago.

I used to have conversions for the cargo Containers/bunkers myself. I also added weapon turrets to the Horizon-T in older games. I may still do so if the space ship book coming out does not have a variant in it that is hinted at in the hardback shadow chronicles. I use the Betas missile bay to act as drop ships and I think one of my current players is thinking of a way to modify it so they have more room for its occupants.