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llywelyn

So I don't see people's problem with accepting the rule, unless they're unhappy that a flaw in the game has been secretly resolved. I think the griping is the secret part and the problem with accepting the rule is the bad precedent of "No, it's not in the book, but I talked to some guy who hea...

llywelyn

So what is this defaulting rule, and is there anywhere I can find it written down? Or are you saying this is only passed via word of mouth? Unfortunately, I think the original postings have been archived- they took place back in 2004 or before, iirc. It's simple enough to remember, though this isn'...

llywelyn

Not grackle tooth, Brutosaur. So then Stony can even be the smartest of his race and its still works. Plus they're very accepting of other races and have clans down Pecos way, which gives them a place for the AI to pick them up or a reason for them to have been travelling together if the adventure ...

llywelyn

[excellent alternative] is also excellent. There are lots of Christians - even the theologians - who would disagree with you: He does repeatedly come out and say He's the Son of G-d, who is His Father (Matt 11:27, Mark 14:61, Luke 2:49). What at least the English translations leave ambiguous (the G...

llywelyn

Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:I didnt say [polytheists] were more peaceful. I siad they hadn't done anything too heinous in recent years that reached common knowledge.

Yeah, but like I pointed out, that part's wrong, too.

llywelyn

Don't you love it when adventures write themselves. Hit me with some Neo-Apostles concepts and I'll see it together and run it next weekend for my group. Should be interesting. If you're keeping the tone of the original: Stone : Well-meaning and the most devout, "Jesus"'s favorite. Powerf...

llywelyn

Killer Cyborg wrote:Online errata

But Palladium has online errata. I don't remember that rule being included there either.

In any case, the GM can make it a rule if he wants and the players can't force it on the GM even if it showed up in print.

llywelyn

Much better to just acknowledge that the rules are crappy and fix them rather than open a gigantic loophole just because it's "common sense". If you can come up with a fix that actually makes things better, I'm all for it. Sure. 1. use the skills as I've said (if you ain't got it, then yo...

llywelyn

On the other hand, even if G-d and the angels don't get involved, in a universe where They are there, the GM could use this plotline both (a) to make the players into Heroes of Legend among the faithful (not that that necessarily helps them: "YOU're Ajax the Invincible?? But he's twenty feet ta...

llywelyn

I think the idea of 'second coming of Jesus being just an alien intelligence' to be on the tacky end, referring back to an earlier post. I don't see where it'd be that entertaining (unless you had the real Jesus show up to deal with the fake). Plus not like Palladium hasn't already taken a noble ta...

llywelyn

That's a faulty assumption, since it holds the implication that Tolkeen would have marched the Xiticix off to destroy the CS if it had gained control over them which isn't supported by the nature of Tolkeen. It never made war on the CS and if they'd gained control over them during the war they'd ha...

llywelyn

Oh for the... IT IS A GAME -sigh- Never mind. Just...no. Forget it. But honey, someone is wrong on the Internet ! Beyond which, while small groups should generally do right by the people they meet, it takes the best conflicts in the game off the table if the CS is painted in only as the black hats....

llywelyn

If there's a skill for it and someone doesn't have the skill, then they don't know how to do it. Don't blame us for our "literal" interpretation. Blame Palladium's lack of rules for skill defaulting. Letting someone use a skill that they didn't pay for isn't fair to characters who did spe...

llywelyn

As you said have them build a second pyramid and a second Ark of the Covenant (See Alien Conspiracy Theory) If we're getting into Ark territory, rift the followers to Jerusalem and build the pyramid on the Temple Mount . At that point, a series of lore rolls should point out That Can't Be Right. Go...

llywelyn

Christianity may have grown out of it, but Christians haven't. Muslims either. also, the reason for why polytheistic religions haven't done anything too nasty in a while isn't important. its the fact that the monotheistic ones have. palladium is afraid of reprisals by people who lack common sense a...

llywelyn

Is it just me or does the average O.C.C. gain too many skills? It's just you. Although if you want to feel better on that score, just realize that you're being hard on yourself and easy on your characters. Technically, according to the rules, the average person without a climbing skill can't make i...

llywelyn

c. Part of the reason the CS is doing better now than in the past is that it is actively removing the power bases of the non-human groups rather than letting them establish more. I don't really think this is true. The CS has only one known enemy in North America which could pose a threat to them (T...

llywelyn

And outside of a city you still need math for bartering to know how many chickens you got for that pig. In a nation of millions you'd still need a significant portion to be literate and have basic math skills not a hand full. Even the innumerate can count on their fingers and remember what maw said...

llywelyn

Akashic Soldier wrote:As you said have them build a second pyramid and a second Ark of the Covenant (See Alien Conspiracy Theory)

If we're getting into Ark territory, rift the followers to Jerusalem and build the pyramid on the Temple Mount.

At that point, a series of lore rolls should point out That Can't Be Right.

llywelyn

Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:
SamBell wrote:Scarecrow mystic knight. With an amulet of fire protection. Never die.
i walk up. i rip amulet off. i kill you now.

In any case, scarecrow buster is much more straightforward, even if he should be completely deranged with fear of himself. xD

llywelyn

Noon wrote:Some people play silly. What are you going to do, stop them from being silly?

Well, at least force them to convert their ley line walker to a ludicrous mage. :nod:

llywelyn

WB17 There is a rift in Russia that is directly linked to the gate, if I'm not mistaken. It could be in Mystic Russia though Just checked that out. It's buried in the Gypsy section of Mystic Russia (WB18). There's a constant rift from the edge of the Moskva crater to Calgary, another in the "m...

llywelyn

I don't have the Rifter , so what did it add? From Coalition War Campaign : Rift Control Study Group The RCSG group is a brigade of CS troops and military scientists... Their headquarters and main base of operations is at the East St. Louis Rift... "Containment" typically means the capture...

llywelyn

I agree that any being born and raised in a given territory is considered to be a native of said territory. However that does not change the way the CS views them. To the CS ALL beings that are not human or are from a RIFT (as are most d-bees originally) are treated as invaders. It does not matter ...

llywelyn

...even if it were, would the game be somehow "lessened" by the lack of humans? --flatline I get that that is fundamentally your and Nightmask and Rifter 28 's attitude. Assuming any level of empathy with the setting, though, I just don't understand how you can't be disgusted by yourselve...

llywelyn

I'll ask the CS enthusiasts a general question that covers my point. For the record, I'm not a CS enthusiast and much prefer the Geofront (however asinine its name) approach of slowly and carefully studying Dbees over decades. Exile from earth is safer, but by that point you pretty much know about ...

llywelyn

Neither is repeated confusion of human racism and Rifts speciesism Rationalize all you want, but bigotry is bigotry. --flatline .shrug. Like I said, it would be worse if that were true: bigotry is the successful evolutionary strategy in Rifts and altruism will get you manipulated, mind-controlled, ...

llywelyn

Well I read the thread now and there is nothing that I want to address specifically, so instead I'll ask the CS enthusiasts a general question that covers my point. As said earlier in this thread, my country of origin is New Zealand. New Zealand is a country where a significant majority of the crim...

llywelyn

Well it was good while as it lasted Dang it why'd that guy come in. I thought we were all getting along. Oh well. In again before lock. Nah. The first post violated forum rules, but that was pointed out and his next one was toned down and on topic. Alien Intelligence: Don't be so quick to judge, m'...

llywelyn

I've learned to occasionally, when making a super-long post, use the Save feature or to Copy what I've written so far into the buffer, so I can retrieve it later. Your way is safest - sometimes I used to write out posts in notepad and then paste them into a forum - but my current version of Chrome ...

llywelyn

The nation could not function unless a significant portion of the population was literate and pretty much everyone would have to have at least the most basic of math skills (2+2=4, 4+4=8) It's unnecessary for smaller settlements, although it would be a fun mini-adventure to let your higher-IQ, high...

llywelyn

as for the Buddhist God statement: This is purely based on the japanese/Korean Model of Buddhism, where they believe Buddha will come again to offer humans final enlightenment against those that would lead people astray ( those who gain psychic power by dealing with devils, At least in one particul...

llywelyn

That Lazlo continues to exist is authorial fiat/filibuster - in real life, it would be a wretched den of inhuman slavery and feudalistic privilege enforced by the magical Dbees against the lower classes. I find that to be fairly realistic assessment actually. At best the nonmagical would probably b...

llywelyn

The Moriori . I grew up in New Zealand. As such we studied NZ history (including the Moriori) as part of our compulsory curriculum. The thing about the Moriori that your Wikipedia article doesn't seem to put enough emphasis in, is the fact that most historians of renown consider them a myth of unkn...

llywelyn

Mech-Viper Prime wrote:I know but if CS did that they would be FQ

I don't follow.

The CS already does that, per Tarn.

llywelyn

Aliens fight humans that like bambi vs godzilla You're not stating facts though, you're stating opinions, ones not supported by the actual facts. There are thousands of alien species on Rifts Earth because of the Cataclysm, it's not even remotely factual to lump them under a heading like 'aliens' a...

llywelyn

Apparently you're confused, or have you not paid attention to the fact that racists don't consider their targets to be human and consider them as nothing but animals? There's a difference between animals and hostile invader. The CS considers the dog boys to be animals; probably misguided but there ...

llywelyn

Again, repeatedly stating that you have no concern for human survival is not the way to win converts. Given I've never stated that I really don't have anything to worry about now do I? Too bad that can't be given. Problem being, it's not so easy to tell the one from the other. True, but [it's hypoc...

llywelyn

Frankly I can't see how there are any people who actually argue as if the CS is a great place and how it's obvious atrocities are really okay, acting as if the CS were actually real and that they were actually members of the CS. Any real aliens who went surfing the internet for information on the h...

llywelyn

This also isn't a discussion about 'what do beings become when pushed to the wall' but whether or not non-humans are beings deserving the same rights and chances as humans. Which they are.You don't go around killing people because it's easier to kill them because you're too overly inflated about yo...

llywelyn

Well it was good while as it lasted We're pretty civil. I'm sure Rappy holds his beliefs and just didn't acquaint himself with the forum rules: Transmitting or facilitating the distribution of content that is harmful, illegal, bigoted, vulgar, sexually explicit or degrading, or disparaging of any r...

llywelyn

[size=170] Heh. That was a bit much. ...humans are just naked apes. I don't know what kind of sicko community you blue-haired punk Christians have going on, but over here, we wear clothes. It's one of the reasons G-d made the CS masters of creation and is guiding Triax to victory over the shameless...

llywelyn

1. Christian god/judaic God/Islamic God are NOT the same god. They were declared so by people wishing to end holy wars. They were declared so by the very people who founded their faiths: Abraham, Jesus, and Muhammad. That they handle their theology differently doesn't refute that, especially given ...

llywelyn

Llywelyn- From everything I have ever read and been told the devil is a very essential. Catholics and Christians are always talking about Hell, Satan, the devil and such. I am a firm believer that you can not have good with out evil and evil without good. Except that's dualism. It's always been a v...

llywelyn

certainly with the amount of devastation and depopulation of the human species, they no longer have enough population to claim a need for the entire earth. and with the number of enemies they face, they should absolutely ally with non-humans in protecting themselves from *real* threats, as opposed ...

llywelyn

That Lazlo continues to exist is authorial fiat/filibuster - in real life, it would be a wretched den of inhuman slavery and feudalistic privilege enforced by the magical Dbees against the lower classes. That is the most pessimistic thing I have ever heard. You don't think that beings that aren't r...

llywelyn

Personally I would love to see how they do business, ordering stock, do reports and other fun things like that Iirc, before literacy, they would make contracts by putting little clay statues inside a clay ball, writing the price on the outside and baking it. When it came time for delivery, they'd b...

llywelyn

Karthok wrote:Does anyone have a copy of the Middle East Netbook by el magico darklord that I could get from them. I emailed him and he's not sure if he has a copy.

Sounds interesting.

What's it like?

llywelyn

So if Rifts had God and Jesus would it not also need Satan or Lucifer as well? Are Satan and Lucifer one and the same? (asking because there seems to be a huge debate on this and I am wondering how people think this would be done in Rifts) a. A Big Baddie isn't essential to monotheism the way it is...

llywelyn

True, but you can't tell a dangerous human threat from a non-dangerous human either. You can no more go 'well just better to treat all non-humans as evil and dangerous even if they aren't' than you can go 'all humans are safe and trustworthy'. As mentioned in the CS thread, there are other issues. ...

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